> legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote in
> news:l8qvvg90aa541vdla...@4ax.com:
> >
> > Recent experience (first) with a Lenovo Tab 8
> > had me scratching my head.
> >
> > It's USB (~charging) port could communicate with a
> > PC for file transfer, but couldn't read a memory stick.
> > This with all the recommended OTG cabling.
> >
> > Why would you stick a communicative USB port on a
> > battery-operated device and then restrict it from
> > acting as a USB host?
> >
> > Is this normal?
> >
> > Is this sane?
> >
> > I know there are a multitude of other methods of
> > com available for these devices, but why not
> > simple USB stick transfer?
> >
> > RL
> >
> Isn't a tab 8 about 8 years old?
>
> Also some chip reader/usb port devices do not mandshake nicely in
> every case.
>
> As old as I remember those being, that may have been back in the
> virus on a stick days. So they put extra security in. No connection
> is as secure as it gets, eh?
I have dozens of brand new Ipads in LA and I want to sell them wholesale, great deals, please write me back if you can work with me
> Recent experience (first) with a Lenovo Tab 8
> had me scratching my head.
>
> It's USB (~charging) port could communicate with a
> PC for file transfer, but couldn't read a memory stick.
> This with all the recommended OTG cabling.
>
> Why would you stick a communicative USB port on a
> battery-operated device and then restrict it from
> acting as a USB host?
>
> Is this normal?
>
> Is this sane?
>
> I know there are a multitude of other methods of
> com available for these devices, but why not
> simple USB stick transfer?
>
> RL
I have dozens of brand new Ipads in LA and I want to sell them wholesale, great deals, please write me back if you can work with me
Reply by legg●February 10, 20222022-02-10
On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 15:37:25 +1100, Clifford Heath
<no.spam@please.net> wrote:
>On 10/2/22 11:10 am, legg wrote:
>> It just recognizes the connecting - flags a notice to
>> the user and opens the drive when the notice is tapped
>> (maybe tapped a few times - hard to tell with this screen).
>
>Or you can just open the Google Files app, or whatever other file
>manager you prefer.
Yeah, well, finding files after transfer is another
issue.
Files and folders don't seem to show repeatable
navigation - dependent on where listed and
how approached in the GUI
RL
Reply by Clifford Heath●February 10, 20222022-02-10
On 10/2/22 11:10 am, legg wrote:
> It just recognizes the connecting - flags a notice to
> the user and opens the drive when the notice is tapped
> (maybe tapped a few times - hard to tell with this screen).
Or you can just open the Google Files app, or whatever other file
manager you prefer.
Reply by Lasse Langwadt Christensen●February 9, 20222022-02-09
torsdag den 10. februar 2022 kl. 01.10.36 UTC+1 skrev legg:
> On Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:33:35 -0500, legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
>
> >
> >Recent experience (first) with a Lenovo Tab 8
> >had me scratching my head.
> >
> >It's USB (~charging) port could communicate with a
> >PC for file transfer, but couldn't read a memory stick.
> >This with all the recommended OTG cabling.
> >
> >Why would you stick a communicative USB port on a
> >battery-operated device and then restrict it from
> >acting as a USB host?
> >
> >Is this normal?
> >
> >Is this sane?
> >
> >I know there are a multitude of other methods of
> >com available for these devices, but why not
> >simple USB stick transfer?
> >
> >RL
> OK - I finally found a micro-usb 3 to USB adapter with
> the correct pin grounded (connection between ground and
> adjacent 'I/O' pin, NOT the center pin)
>
> With this usb pin connection, the TAB 8 reads memory
> sticks on the usb port without system setting adjustments.
> It just recognizes the connecting - flags a notice to
> the user and opens the drive when the notice is tapped
> (maybe tapped a few times - hard to tell with this screen).
>
> All the other micro-usb hardware I had was missing this
> connection. I asked Mohamed at the cell phone shop
> next door to keep an eye out for one. His supplier had
> just that - one adapter. Now it's mine. Nobody else
> can have it.
>
> I actually went through a couple of places checking to
> see if ANY of their micro-usb connectors or peripherals
> had this connection. (have socket with pin sensors
> attached) NADA.
>
> So when someone says it's USB OTG, measure it.
>
> Might be worth kludging the contact permanently if ever
> the TAB 8 is in the shop for battery, screen or other
> repairs.
but then it can't be a device anymore so you can't connect it to a PC
Reply by legg●February 9, 20222022-02-09
On Sun, 06 Feb 2022 10:33:35 -0500, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
>
>Recent experience (first) with a Lenovo Tab 8
>had me scratching my head.
>
>It's USB (~charging) port could communicate with a
>PC for file transfer, but couldn't read a memory stick.
>This with all the recommended OTG cabling.
>
>Why would you stick a communicative USB port on a
>battery-operated device and then restrict it from
>acting as a USB host?
>
>Is this normal?
>
>Is this sane?
>
>I know there are a multitude of other methods of
>com available for these devices, but why not
>simple USB stick transfer?
>
>RL
OK - I finally found a micro-usb 3 to USB adapter with
the correct pin grounded (connection between ground and
adjacent 'I/O' pin, NOT the center pin)
With this usb pin connection, the TAB 8 reads memory
sticks on the usb port without system setting adjustments.
It just recognizes the connecting - flags a notice to
the user and opens the drive when the notice is tapped
(maybe tapped a few times - hard to tell with this screen).
All the other micro-usb hardware I had was missing this
connection. I asked Mohamed at the cell phone shop
next door to keep an eye out for one. His supplier had
just that - one adapter. Now it's mine. Nobody else
can have it.
I actually went through a couple of places checking to
see if ANY of their micro-usb connectors or peripherals
had this connection. (have socket with pin sensors
attached) NADA.
So when someone says it's USB OTG, measure it.
Might be worth kludging the contact permanently if ever
the TAB 8 is in the shop for battery, screen or other
repairs.
RL
Reply by ●February 6, 20222022-02-06
whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
news:8ae05395-09ef-4efd-b41d-4a5f41d9202bn@googlegroups.com:
> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 2:06:12 PM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
>> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 2:00:25 PM UTC-8, Clifford Heath
>> wrote:
>
>> > Google doesn't like local file transfers, because that enables
>> > you to manage content they can't spy on. That can be the only
>> > explanation for why they haven't put an SMB server into
>> > Android, and all the standard file transfer apps are so crap.
>
>> That doesn't make sense. You can do any file transfer with a PC
>> and slave Android. I prefer to transfer from PC anyway, even will
>> another USB stick on the PC.
>
> Oh, it makes sense, all right. You can't install an application
> with 'file transfer' because you can't access the directory where
> apps reside. You can't even inspect the filesystem except within
> a walled-off area (try, for instance, to find a fonts folder, or a
> picture file from a text message).
>
> Maybe there's developer tools that can explore the walled
> garden...
>
Yeah, one has to have a "fully jailbroke" phone to get access to
those areas, but some carriers do not allow such 'behavior'.
I have a phone I never used that had two sim card slots in it and
Verizon would not put it on their plan or system. I was so pissed.
It is for folks that travel to Europe a lot or Israel. No need to
switch phones or have two or any of that nonsense. I still want to
get it and see if ATT will let me use it. It is only about 5 years
old now, but it was a top notch "Viewsonic" phine. I don't know if
they are still is or ever got going in the cell phone world, but it
was cool for its time.
Reply by Ed Lee●February 6, 20222022-02-06
On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 3:22:52 PM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 3:16:27 PM UTC-8, whit3rd wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 2:06:12 PM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
> > > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 2:00:25 PM UTC-8, Clifford Heath wrote:
> >
> > > > Google doesn't like local file transfers, because that enables you to
> > > > manage content they can't spy on. That can be the only explanation for
> > > > why they haven't put an SMB server into Android, and all the standard
> > > > file transfer apps are so crap.
> >
> > > That doesn't make sense. You can do any file transfer with a PC and slave Android.
> > > I prefer to transfer from PC anyway, even will another USB stick on the PC.
> > Oh, it makes sense, all right. You can't install an application with 'file transfer'
> > because you can't access the directory where apps reside. You can't even inspect
> > the filesystem except within a walled-off area (try, for instance, to find a fonts
> > folder, or a picture file from a text message).
> >
> > Maybe there's developer tools that can explore the walled garden...
> You can do it all with rooted device. The protection is for accidental messing up of files, just like a typical Linux system.
By the way, why can't you install apps or transfer files with ADB (Android Debugger)? ADB will take care of all the details without rooting (by-passing security) the device. And if you must root it, be sure to turn off the cell radio, or your phone is wide open to Russa, China, Iran, N. Korea, etc. There are reasons for the phone's tight security.
Reply by Ed Lee●February 6, 20222022-02-06
On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 3:16:27 PM UTC-8, whit3rd wrote:
> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 2:06:12 PM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 2:00:25 PM UTC-8, Clifford Heath wrote:
>
> > > Google doesn't like local file transfers, because that enables you to
> > > manage content they can't spy on. That can be the only explanation for
> > > why they haven't put an SMB server into Android, and all the standard
> > > file transfer apps are so crap.
>
> > That doesn't make sense. You can do any file transfer with a PC and slave Android.
> > I prefer to transfer from PC anyway, even will another USB stick on the PC.
> Oh, it makes sense, all right. You can't install an application with 'file transfer'
> because you can't access the directory where apps reside. You can't even inspect
> the filesystem except within a walled-off area (try, for instance, to find a fonts
> folder, or a picture file from a text message).
>
> Maybe there's developer tools that can explore the walled garden...
You can do it all with rooted device. The protection is for accidental messing up of files, just like a typical Linux system.
Reply by whit3rd●February 6, 20222022-02-06
On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 2:06:12 PM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 2:00:25 PM UTC-8, Clifford Heath wrote:
> > Google doesn't like local file transfers, because that enables you to
> > manage content they can't spy on. That can be the only explanation for
> > why they haven't put an SMB server into Android, and all the standard
> > file transfer apps are so crap.
> That doesn't make sense. You can do any file transfer with a PC and slave Android.
> I prefer to transfer from PC anyway, even will another USB stick on the PC.
Oh, it makes sense, all right. You can't install an application with 'file transfer'
because you can't access the directory where apps reside. You can't even inspect
the filesystem except within a walled-off area (try, for instance, to find a fonts
folder, or a picture file from a text message).
Maybe there's developer tools that can explore the walled garden...