Reply by Edward Hernandez October 2, 20212021-10-02
The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id 
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:
> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from > breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is > CLUELESS...
And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sat, 2 Oct 2021 20:41:08 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <sjag54$eu2$4@dont-email.me>.
Reply by John Doe October 2, 20212021-10-02
A nym-shifting stalker, usually "Corvid" also "Charger Boy"
still sore from being spanked in (sci.electronics.repair)...

-- 
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:

> Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!HQqjtrwtWYY0cW+c5n/Byw.user.46.165.242.75.POSTED!not-for-mail > From: Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> > Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design > Subject: Re: txlines > Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 02:48:42 -0000 (UTC) > Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server > Message-ID: <sj5sua$tiq$6@gioia.aioe.org> > References: <ocf6lgh9g622olqlq5k0mc20os0ktqcvcl@4ax.com> <DKmdnZxUWsGCxM78nZ2dnUU7-RednZ2d@giganews.com> <tgq6lgtmphtatfh2svc7g2b6stj0kckp7e@4ax.com> <WZK4J.85540$Dr.53149@fx40.iad> <6qv6lgp28p1ivhvjd82qcmlscs6i4tddqr@4ax.com> <7-CdnSRJw7_kCM78nZ2dnUU7-IfNnZ2d@giganews.com> <4c77lg9foa3t5dhtp5cf961s3u5rvk6m12@4ax.com> <baebec81-3b9b-4fa4-ab74-b807e6378f94n@googlegroups.com> <sj5mag$u8e$1@dont-email.me> > Injection-Info: gioia.aioe.org; logging-data="30298"; posting-host="HQqjtrwtWYY0cW+c5n/Byw.user.gioia.aioe.org"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@aioe.org"; > X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2 > Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org sci.electronics.design:646915 > > The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id > <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>: > >> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post... > > And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id > <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>: > >> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from >> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is > CLUELESS... > > And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another > incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 1 Oct 2021 00:55:44 -0000 > (UTC) in message-id <sj5mag$u8e$1@dont-email.me>. > >
Reply by bitrex October 2, 20212021-10-02
On 10/1/2021 2:49 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
> bitrex wrote: >> On 9/29/2021 6:09 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote: >>> Robert Baer wrote: >>>> bitrex wrote: >>>>> On 9/28/2021 12:26 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 12:22:54 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/28/2021 12:18 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>>>>>> Everything that conducts is a lossy transmission line. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A solenoid inductor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/b5eae1jwsdscw4k/PC_3.jpg?raw=1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A series string of surface-mount resistors. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A ground plane or power pour. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A wound-foil capacitor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A wirewound resistor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A piece of wire in free air. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A via. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A pcb trace, of course. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What if ur brain is a lossy transmission line >>>>>> >>>>>> What if you posted something intelligent about electronic design? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The brain conducts! I know an elderly person who had ECT for >>>>> psychosis one time, it was miraculous. >>>>> >>>> &nbsp;&nbsp; Was that outlawed by the 1800s as being destructive, and inhumane? >>>> &nbsp;&nbsp; Besides, "results" were all over the map. >>>> &nbsp;&nbsp; Might work in your case... >>>> >>> >>> ECT is still used.&nbsp; A friend of mine was helped considerably by it, >>> just 7 years or so ago.&nbsp; Back then she said that it more or less >>> cured her crippling anxiety, unfortunately at the price of some >>> memory loss. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Phil Hobbs >> >> It's often portrayed as a scary or barbaric treatment in TV and film >> but in a modern medical setting it's not really like that at all. >> >> I don't think it's known conclusively why it works, when it does. >> There seem to be a number of competing theories none of which seem >> immediately more plausible than another. I expect there's not a lot of >> money on offer to research the topic very thoroughly as vs. >> medications there's not a large commercial motivation, I'd guess >> there's only a couple of companies in the US that manufacture the >> equipment. > &nbsp;&nbsp; Remember, ECT is proven to be 100% effective in some prisons. > >
Which prisons were those, Soviet prisons? US prisoners lucky to get any health care at all much less $25,000 procedures like ECT
Reply by Edward Hernandez October 2, 20212021-10-02
The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id 
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:
> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from > breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is > CLUELESS...
And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 1 Oct 2021 21:05:36 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <sj7t70$v8s$2@dont-email.me>.
Reply by John Doe October 1, 20212021-10-01
A nym-shifting stalker, usually "Corvid" also "Charger Boy", still sore from being spanked in (sci.electronics.repair)...

see also...
=?UTF-8?Q?C=c3=b6rvid?= <bl@ckbirds.org>
=?UTF-8?B?8J+QriBDb3dzIGFyZSBOaWNlIPCfkK4=?= <nice@cows.moo>
Banders <snap@mailchute.com>
Covid-19 <always.look@message.header>
Corvid <bl@ckbirds.net>
Corvid <bl@ckbirds.org>
Cows Are Nice <cows@nice.moo>
Cows are nice <moo@cows.org>
Cows are Nice <nice@cows.moo>
dogs <dogs@home.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Great Pumpkin <pumpkin@patch.net>
Jose Curvo <jcurvo@mymail.com>
Local Favorite <how2recycle@palomar.info>
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Sea <freshness@coast.org>
Standard Poodle <standard@poodle.com>
triangles <build@home.com>
and others...

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Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:

> Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!HQqjtrwtWYY0cW+c5n/Byw.user.46.165.242.75.POSTED!not-for-mail > From: Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> > Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design > Subject: Re: txlines > Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 02:48:42 -0000 (UTC) > Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server > Message-ID: <sj5sua$tiq$6@gioia.aioe.org> > References: <ocf6lgh9g622olqlq5k0mc20os0ktqcvcl@4ax.com> <DKmdnZxUWsGCxM78nZ2dnUU7-RednZ2d@giganews.com> <tgq6lgtmphtatfh2svc7g2b6stj0kckp7e@4ax.com> <WZK4J.85540$Dr.53149@fx40.iad> <6qv6lgp28p1ivhvjd82qcmlscs6i4tddqr@4ax.com> <7-CdnSRJw7_kCM78nZ2dnUU7-IfNnZ2d@giganews.com> <4c77lg9foa3t5dhtp5cf961s3u5rvk6m12@4ax.com> <baebec81-3b9b-4fa4-ab74-b807e6378f94n@googlegroups.com> <sj5mag$u8e$1@dont-email.me> > Injection-Info: gioia.aioe.org; logging-data="30298"; posting-host="HQqjtrwtWYY0cW+c5n/Byw.user.gioia.aioe.org"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@aioe.org"; > X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2 > Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org sci.electronics.design:646915 > > The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id > <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>: > >> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post... > > And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id > <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>: > >> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from >> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is > CLUELESS... > > And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another > incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 1 Oct 2021 00:55:44 -0000 > (UTC) in message-id <sj5mag$u8e$1@dont-email.me>. > > >
Reply by Robert Baer October 1, 20212021-10-01
bitrex wrote:
> On 9/29/2021 6:09 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote: >> Robert Baer wrote: >>> bitrex wrote: >>>> On 9/28/2021 12:26 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 12:22:54 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/28/2021 12:18 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>>>>> Everything that conducts is a lossy transmission line. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A solenoid inductor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/b5eae1jwsdscw4k/PC_3.jpg?raw=1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A series string of surface-mount resistors. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A ground plane or power pour. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A wound-foil capacitor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A wirewound resistor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A piece of wire in free air. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A via. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A pcb trace, of course. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What if ur brain is a lossy transmission line >>>>> >>>>> What if you posted something intelligent about electronic design? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> The brain conducts! I know an elderly person who had ECT for >>>> psychosis one time, it was miraculous. >>>> >>> &nbsp;&nbsp; Was that outlawed by the 1800s as being destructive, and inhumane? >>> &nbsp;&nbsp; Besides, "results" were all over the map. >>> &nbsp;&nbsp; Might work in your case... >>> >> >> ECT is still used.&nbsp; A friend of mine was helped considerably by it, >> just 7 years or so ago.&nbsp; Back then she said that it more or less cured >> her crippling anxiety, unfortunately at the price of some memory loss. >> >> Cheers >> >> Phil Hobbs > > It's often portrayed as a scary or barbaric treatment in TV and film but > in a modern medical setting it's not really like that at all. > > I don't think it's known conclusively why it works, when it does. There > seem to be a number of competing theories none of which seem immediately > more plausible than another. I expect there's not a lot of money on > offer to research the topic very thoroughly as vs. medications there's > not a large commercial motivation, I'd guess there's only a couple of > companies in the US that manufacture the equipment.
Remember, ECT is proven to be 100% effective in some prisons. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Reply by Anthony William Sloman October 1, 20212021-10-01
On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 10:55:50 AM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
> Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:58:26 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote: > >> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 15:21:42 -0700, John Robertson <sp...@flippers.com> wrote: > >> >On 2021/09/28 1:51 p.m., John Larkin wrote: > >> >> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 16:32:54 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: > >> >>> On 9/28/2021 3:30 PM, John Larkin wrote: > >> >>>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 11:04:15 -0700, John Robertson <sp...@flippers.com> wrote: > >> >>>>> On 2021/09/28 9:18 a.m., jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > > > >> Some guys at Bell Labs discovered the universe's background radiation > >> with a big scoop antenna. The initial noise figure was unaccountably > >> high until they evicted some pigeons from inside. > > > > It wasn't so much the pigeons as their droppings. Rather like some of the posters here. > > The post below is another example of Bozo acting incoherent. The phrase > "evicting some pigeons" obviously means getting rid of pigeon droppings, > the droppings rather go with the pigeons!
Sadly for John Doe's credibility, evicting the pigeons doesn't get rid of their droppings, which - unlike the pigeons themselves - can't just fly away. The droppings had to be explicitly removed. The history I read didn't go into the tools used to carry out that job. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by Edward Hernandez September 30, 20212021-09-30
The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id 
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:
> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from > breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is > CLUELESS...
And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 1 Oct 2021 00:55:44 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <sj5mag$u8e$1@dont-email.me>.
Reply by bitrex September 30, 20212021-09-30
On 9/30/2021 9:15 PM, bitrex wrote:
> On 9/29/2021 6:09 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote: >> Robert Baer wrote: >>> bitrex wrote: >>>> On 9/28/2021 12:26 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 12:22:54 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/28/2021 12:18 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>>>>> Everything that conducts is a lossy transmission line. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A solenoid inductor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/b5eae1jwsdscw4k/PC_3.jpg?raw=1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A series string of surface-mount resistors. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A ground plane or power pour. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A wound-foil capacitor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A wirewound resistor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A piece of wire in free air. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A via. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A pcb trace, of course. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What if ur brain is a lossy transmission line >>>>> >>>>> What if you posted something intelligent about electronic design? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> The brain conducts! I know an elderly person who had ECT for >>>> psychosis one time, it was miraculous. >>>> >>> &nbsp;&nbsp; Was that outlawed by the 1800s as being destructive, and inhumane? >>> &nbsp;&nbsp; Besides, "results" were all over the map. >>> &nbsp;&nbsp; Might work in your case... >>> >> >> ECT is still used.&nbsp; A friend of mine was helped considerably by it, >> just 7 years or so ago.&nbsp; Back then she said that it more or less cured >> her crippling anxiety, unfortunately at the price of some memory loss. >> >> Cheers >> >> Phil Hobbs > > It's often portrayed as a scary or barbaric treatment in TV and film but > in a modern medical setting it's not really like that at all. > > I don't think it's known conclusively why it works, when it does. There > seem to be a number of competing theories none of which seem immediately > more plausible than another. I expect there's not a lot of money on > offer to research the topic very thoroughly as vs. medications there's > not a large commercial motivation, I'd guess there's only a couple of > companies in the US that manufacture the equipment.
Additionally when it's used fairly often as a potentially life-saving emergency treatment for serious illness it's hard to form a control group.
Reply by bitrex September 30, 20212021-09-30
On 9/29/2021 6:37 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
> On 29/09/21 20:20, Robert Baer wrote: >> bitrex wrote: >>> On 9/28/2021 12:26 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 12:22:54 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9/28/2021 12:18 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>>>> Everything that conducts is a lossy transmission line. >>>>>> >>>>>> A solenoid inductor. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/b5eae1jwsdscw4k/PC_3.jpg?raw=1 >>>>>> >>>>>> A series string of surface-mount resistors. >>>>>> >>>>>> A ground plane or power pour. >>>>>> >>>>>> A wound-foil capacitor. >>>>>> >>>>>> A wirewound resistor. >>>>>> >>>>>> A piece of wire in free air. >>>>>> >>>>>> A via. >>>>>> >>>>>> A pcb trace, of course. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What if ur brain is a lossy transmission line >>>> >>>> What if you posted something intelligent about electronic design? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> The brain conducts! I know an elderly person who had ECT for >>> psychosis one time, it was miraculous. >>> >> &nbsp;&nbsp; Was that outlawed by the 1800s as being destructive, and inhumane? >> &nbsp;&nbsp; Besides, "results" were all over the map. >> &nbsp;&nbsp; Might work in your case... > > One of my relative was significantly helped by ECT, to > the extent that she requested it over the years. > When ECT became unfashionable, she had to request it more > forcibly. > > It did seem to help her more than the drugs. >
It's still used fairly often in the US for severe cases of various illnesses, in severe mania or psychosis it's likely life-saving sometimes. The case I saw was the closest thing to a real-life miracle I ever saw, the person was on death's door, refusing to eat and they came right back. Like a "reboot", almost, I'm sure it's a poor metaphor for whatever is going on physiologically but that's what it seemed like. They lost some short-term memory of some of the period they were ill but long-term seemed mostly unaffected.