On a sunny day (Wed, 25 Aug 2021 14:02:49 -0000 (UTC)) it happened
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in
<sg5ii9$mfs$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
>Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:sg4nli$mac$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Aug 2021 22:50:02 -0000 (UTC)) it happened
>> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in
>> <sg3t2q$1jcn$3@gioia.aioe.org>:
>>
>>>Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>news:sg36f4$kcl$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Aug 2021 15:23:16 -0000 (UTC)) it
>>>> happened Wond <lost@the.ether.net> wrote in
>>>> <sg32t3$hb7$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 11:52:17 +0100, Piglet wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19/08/2021 16:30, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in
>>>>>>> news:sfcrvt$1n00$1 @gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These guys get to play with stored energy in a different way
>>>>>>>> than we did back when one would have a class mate toss you a
>>>>>>>> charged up capacitor for shits and giggles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlzIUKyA1eQ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I cannot believe that no one here shows any interest for
>>>>>>> this stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I especially like the remnant enrgy still sparking along
>>>>>>> inside for a
>>>>>>> while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Decadent, that was interesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> piglet
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm,,,the old CRT colour TVs were pretty good particle
>>>>> accelerators.
>>>>>How to get that shadow mask out of there?
>>>>
>>>> Get a BW one?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Microwave oven transformer and an HV rectifier?
>>
>> Would work,
>> but I got a '300kV' ?? for a few $ from ebay:
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/153457447746?nma=true&si=lfYNtBcmBE4wrnHD
>> C3jWd5Hy2N0%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.
>> l2557
>> It seems more like 30kV to me, but OK, for the money :-)
>>
>>
>>
> Nothing there.
>
> ebay said it got pulled because of a listing error. Har har.
Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:sg4nli$mac$1@dont-email.me:
> On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Aug 2021 22:50:02 -0000 (UTC)) it happened
> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in
> <sg3t2q$1jcn$3@gioia.aioe.org>:
>
>>Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:sg36f4$kcl$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Aug 2021 15:23:16 -0000 (UTC)) it
>>> happened Wond <lost@the.ether.net> wrote in
>>> <sg32t3$hb7$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 11:52:17 +0100, Piglet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 19/08/2021 16:30, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in
>>>>>> news:sfcrvt$1n00$1 @gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These guys get to play with stored energy in a different way
>>>>>>> than we did back when one would have a class mate toss you a
>>>>>>> charged up capacitor for shits and giggles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlzIUKyA1eQ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I cannot believe that no one here shows any interest for
>>>>>> this stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I especially like the remnant enrgy still sparking along
>>>>>> inside for a
>>>>>> while.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Decadent, that was interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> piglet
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm,,,the old CRT colour TVs were pretty good particle
>>>> accelerators.
>>>>How to get that shadow mask out of there?
>>>
>>> Get a BW one?
>>>
>>
>>Microwave oven transformer and an HV rectifier?
>
> Would work,
> but I got a '300kV' ?? for a few $ from ebay:
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/153457447746?nma=true&si=lfYNtBcmBE4wrnHD
> C3jWd5Hy2N0%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.
> l2557
> It seems more like 30kV to me, but OK, for the money :-)
>
>
>
Nothing there.
ebay said it got pulled because of a listing error. Har har.
Reply by ●August 25, 20212021-08-25
Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:sg4nli$mac$1@dont-email.me:
> On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Aug 2021 22:50:02 -0000 (UTC)) it happened
> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in
> <sg3t2q$1jcn$3@gioia.aioe.org>:
>
>>Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:sg36f4$kcl$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Aug 2021 15:23:16 -0000 (UTC)) it
>>> happened Wond <lost@the.ether.net> wrote in
>>> <sg32t3$hb7$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 11:52:17 +0100, Piglet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 19/08/2021 16:30, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in
>>>>>> news:sfcrvt$1n00$1 @gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These guys get to play with stored energy in a different way
>>>>>>> than we did back when one would have a class mate toss you a
>>>>>>> charged up capacitor for shits and giggles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlzIUKyA1eQ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I cannot believe that no one here shows any interest for
>>>>>> this stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I especially like the remnant enrgy still sparking along
>>>>>> inside for a
>>>>>> while.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Decadent, that was interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> piglet
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm,,,the old CRT colour TVs were pretty good particle
>>>> accelerators.
>>>>How to get that shadow mask out of there?
>>>
>>> Get a BW one?
>>>
>>
>>Microwave oven transformer and an HV rectifier?
>
> Would work,
> but I got a '300kV' ?? for a few $ from ebay:
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/153457447746?nma=true&si=lfYNtBcmBE4wrnHD
> C3jWd5Hy2N0%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.
> l2557
> It seems more like 30kV to me, but OK, for the money :-)
>
>
>
Maybe he missed a decimal. Do not know of many CRT anode supplies of
the 300kV range.
Reply by Jan Panteltje●August 25, 20212021-08-25
On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Aug 2021 22:50:02 -0000 (UTC)) it happened
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in
<sg3t2q$1jcn$3@gioia.aioe.org>:
>Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:sg36f4$kcl$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Aug 2021 15:23:16 -0000 (UTC)) it happened
>> Wond <lost@the.ether.net> wrote in <sg32t3$hb7$1@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>>On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 11:52:17 +0100, Piglet wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 19/08/2021 16:30, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in
>>>>> news:sfcrvt$1n00$1 @gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>> These guys get to play with stored energy in a different way
>>>>>> than we did back when one would have a class mate toss you a
>>>>>> charged up capacitor for shits and giggles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlzIUKyA1eQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I cannot believe that no one here shows any interest for
>>>>> this stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> I especially like the remnant enrgy still sparking along
>>>>> inside for a
>>>>> while.
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks Decadent, that was interesting.
>>>>
>>>> piglet
>>>
>>> Hmmm,,,the old CRT colour TVs were pretty good particle
>>> accelerators.
>>>How to get that shadow mask out of there?
>>
>> Get a BW one?
>>
>
>Microwave oven transformer and an HV rectifier?
Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:sg36f4$kcl$1@dont-email.me:
> On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Aug 2021 15:23:16 -0000 (UTC)) it happened
> Wond <lost@the.ether.net> wrote in <sg32t3$hb7$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>>On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 11:52:17 +0100, Piglet wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/08/2021 16:30, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
>>> wrote:
>>>> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in
>>>> news:sfcrvt$1n00$1 @gioia.aioe.org:
>>>>
>>>>> These guys get to play with stored energy in a different way
>>>>> than we did back when one would have a class mate toss you a
>>>>> charged up capacitor for shits and giggles.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlzIUKyA1eQ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I cannot believe that no one here shows any interest for
>>>> this stuff.
>>>>
>>>> I especially like the remnant enrgy still sparking along
>>>> inside for a
>>>> while.
>>>>
>>> Thanks Decadent, that was interesting.
>>>
>>> piglet
>>
>> Hmmm,,,the old CRT colour TVs were pretty good particle
>> accelerators.
>>How to get that shadow mask out of there?
>
> Get a BW one?
>
Microwave oven transformer and an HV rectifier?
Reply by Jan Panteltje●August 24, 20212021-08-24
On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Aug 2021 15:23:16 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Wond
<lost@the.ether.net> wrote in <sg32t3$hb7$1@dont-email.me>:
>On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 11:52:17 +0100, Piglet wrote:
>
>> On 19/08/2021 16:30, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
>>> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in news:sfcrvt$1n00$1
>>> @gioia.aioe.org:
>>>
>>>> These guys get to play with stored energy in a different way than we
>>>> did back when one would have a class mate toss you a charged up
>>>> capacitor for shits and giggles.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlzIUKyA1eQ
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I cannot believe that no one here shows any interest for this stuff.
>>>
>>> I especially like the remnant enrgy still sparking along inside for
>>> a
>>> while.
>>>
>> Thanks Decadent, that was interesting.
>>
>> piglet
>
> Hmmm,,,the old CRT colour TVs were pretty good particle accelerators.
>How to get that shadow mask out of there?
Get a BW one?
Reply by Wond●August 24, 20212021-08-24
On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 11:52:17 +0100, Piglet wrote:
> On 19/08/2021 16:30, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
>> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in news:sfcrvt$1n00$1
>> @gioia.aioe.org:
>>
>>> These guys get to play with stored energy in a different way than we
>>> did back when one would have a class mate toss you a charged up
>>> capacitor for shits and giggles.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlzIUKyA1eQ
>>>
>>>
>> I cannot believe that no one here shows any interest for this stuff.
>>
>> I especially like the remnant enrgy still sparking along inside for
>> a
>> while.
>>
> Thanks Decadent, that was interesting.
>
> piglet
Hmmm,,,the old CRT colour TVs were pretty good particle accelerators.
How to get that shadow mask out of there?
Reply by ●August 24, 20212021-08-24
Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote in
news:sg29bm$5aa$1@gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org:
> On 2021-08-24, Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat>
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 12:03:48 -0700, John Larkin
>><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 15:22:30 -0700 (PDT), "John Miles, KE5FX"
>>><jmiles@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 1:04:09 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
>>>>> Without particles, the charge might 'track' in any pipe
>>>>> materials it contacts rather than going with the flow.
>>>>
>>>>True, the petroleum people were apparently finding that corona
>>>>from the charged gas or liquid was causing pinhole leaks in the
>>>>pipe. But will that happen at timescales shorter than the
>>>>service life of a rubber belt in a VdG? Seems unlikely.
>>>>
>>>>> The alternative would be field-emission points in the liquid
>>>>> flow; that'd charge well, but not discharge (back to
>>>>> photoconductive assist for the charge removal).
>>>>
>>>>Imparting and removing the charge should be simple enough -- I'd
>>>>just envision some steel wool stuffed in the tubing at both
>>>>ends, where the charge/discharge combs would normally be. As
>>>>the potential builds, the back pressure seen by the circulation
>>>>pump would rise, just like the motor torque in a conventional
>>>>static machine.
>>>
>>>Some filler, plastic beads or something, would let you make a
>>>pelletron.
>>
>> Isn't that a bunch of Spandex-clad jerks on bicycles?
>
> LOL!
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peloton
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelletron
>
Damn that is funny. Every now and then one of these dweeb
injuneers says something that actually is funny.
Reply by Jasen Betts●August 24, 20212021-08-24
On 2021-08-24, Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 12:03:48 -0700, John Larkin
><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 15:22:30 -0700 (PDT), "John Miles, KE5FX"
>><jmiles@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 1:04:09 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
>>>> Without particles, the charge might 'track' in any pipe materials it contacts rather
>>>> than going with the flow.
>>>
>>>True, the petroleum people were apparently finding that corona from the
>>>charged gas or liquid was causing pinhole leaks in the pipe. But will that
>>>happen at timescales shorter than the service life of a rubber belt in a VdG?
>>>Seems unlikely.
>>>
>>>> The alternative would be field-emission points in the liquid flow;
>>>> that'd charge well, but not discharge (back to photoconductive assist
>>>> for the charge removal).
>>>
>>>Imparting and removing the charge should be simple enough -- I'd just
>>>envision some steel wool stuffed in the tubing at both ends, where the
>>>charge/discharge combs would normally be. As the potential builds, the
>>>back pressure seen by the circulation pump would rise, just like the motor
>>>torque in a conventional static machine.
>>
>>Some filler, plastic beads or something, would let you make a
>>pelletron.
>
> Isn't that a bunch of Spandex-clad jerks on bicycles?
On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 12:03:48 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 15:22:30 -0700 (PDT), "John Miles, KE5FX"
><jmiles@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 1:04:09 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
>>> Without particles, the charge might 'track' in any pipe materials it contacts rather
>>> than going with the flow.
>>
>>True, the petroleum people were apparently finding that corona from the
>>charged gas or liquid was causing pinhole leaks in the pipe. But will that
>>happen at timescales shorter than the service life of a rubber belt in a VdG?
>>Seems unlikely.
>>
>>> The alternative would be field-emission points in the liquid flow;
>>> that'd charge well, but not discharge (back to photoconductive assist
>>> for the charge removal).
>>
>>Imparting and removing the charge should be simple enough -- I'd just
>>envision some steel wool stuffed in the tubing at both ends, where the
>>charge/discharge combs would normally be. As the potential builds, the
>>back pressure seen by the circulation pump would rise, just like the motor
>>torque in a conventional static machine.
>
>Some filler, plastic beads or something, would let you make a
>pelletron.
Isn't that a bunch of Spandex-clad jerks on bicycles?
--
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany