Reply by Tim Williams September 22, 20202020-09-22
Yellow.  This guy's photographing dies (mostly old and metal can parts) and 
avalanching many of them:
https://www.richis-lab.de/Bipolar07.htm

Tim

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"John Larkin" <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in message 
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> On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 15:27:38 -0500, "Tim Williams" > <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> wrote: > >>Yes. >>https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/transistors-die-pictures/msg3234138/#msg3234138 >> >>Tim > > I recall pictures of bipolar transistors emitting weak white light. > Pease? >
Reply by Tim Williams September 22, 20202020-09-22
"John S" <Sophi.2@invalid.org> wrote in message 
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>> Nuts do it as well, so why shouldn't a JFET? >> >> https://i.imgur.com/WxqQIEB.jpg > > > Ohhhh, you didn't mean peanuts or gonads, it seems.
Well, those too. True fact: the human body glows, imperceptibly but only just barely so, in deep red. As I understand it, you can't see it with dark adapted eyes, but it doesn't take much better of a camera to see it. Cause is singlet oxygen species -- in short, metabolism. The same emission when 30% hydrogen peroxide and high strength bleach are mixed (at which concentration it is visible). Tim -- Seven Transistor Labs, LLC Electrical Engineering Consultation and Design Website: https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/
Reply by Bill Sloman September 19, 20202020-09-19
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 1:02:56 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 14:19:17 +0200, Arie de Muynck > <no....@no.spam.org> wrote: > > >On 2020-09-18 21:03, Dmitriy Pshonkin wrote: > >> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327860836_Investigating_SiC_MOSFET_body_diode's_light_emission_as_Temperature-Sensitive_Electrical_Parameter > > > >Measuring the photo current, and then displaying the value in mV? > > > >The forward voltage of the photo diode will be very depending on > >temperature (threshold, leakage will vary). The diode is placed on top > >of the FET gel, so it's temperature will also have varied. > > > >Apart from the fun fact that light has been observed, this research is > >practically useless. > > > >It should be mandatory to add a well-qualified electronics engineer to > >scientific teams dabbling with electronics. And to review teams. > > > No, that would remove the substantial amusement available from many > scientific papers.
Worse, it would stop the graduate students from using quick and dirty solutions that only work because you've got a graduate student to use as part of the control loop. The net result would be that rather less scientific research would get done - what was done would be a bit more reliable, but there's no strong correlation between the quality of the electronics and the significance of the results obtained, so you end up with a net loss. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by George Herold September 19, 20202020-09-19
On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 8:30:09 AM UTC-4, Arie de Muynck wrote:
> On 2020-09-18 21:03, Dmitriy Pshonkin wrote: > > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327860836_Investigating_SiC_MOSFET_body_diode's_light_emission_as_Temperature-Sensitive_Electrical_Parameter > > Measuring the photo current, and then displaying the value in mV? > > The forward voltage of the photo diode will be very depending on > temperature (threshold, leakage will vary). The diode is placed on top > of the FET gel, so it's temperature will also have varied. > > Apart from the fun fact that light has been observed, this research is > practically useless. > > It should be mandatory to add a well-qualified electronics engineer to > scientific teams dabbling with electronics. And to review teams. > > Arie
Sure, everything is a function of temperature. I didn't know SiC forward biased was an led... but indirect, so not so good efficiency. George H.
Reply by Phil Hobbs September 19, 20202020-09-19
On 2020-09-17 20:20, John S wrote:
> On 9/17/2020 5:46 PM, Piotr Wyderski wrote: >> Tim Williams wrote: >> >>> Yes. >> >> Nuts do it as well, so why shouldn't a JFET? >> >> https://i.imgur.com/WxqQIEB.jpg > > > Ohhhh, you didn't mean peanuts or gonads, it seems.
I saw that one with the caption, "Extra heavy-duty Russian LED". Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com
Reply by September 19, 20202020-09-19
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 14:19:17 +0200, Arie de Muynck
<no.spam@no.spam.org> wrote:

>On 2020-09-18 21:03, Dmitriy Pshonkin wrote: >> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327860836_Investigating_SiC_MOSFET_body_diode's_light_emission_as_Temperature-Sensitive_Electrical_Parameter > >Measuring the photo current, and then displaying the value in mV? > >The forward voltage of the photo diode will be very depending on >temperature (threshold, leakage will vary). The diode is placed on top >of the FET gel, so it's temperature will also have varied. > >Apart from the fun fact that light has been observed, this research is >practically useless. > >It should be mandatory to add a well-qualified electronics engineer to >scientific teams dabbling with electronics. And to review teams. > >Arie
No, that would remove the substantial amusement available from many scientific papers. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc Science teaches us to doubt. Claude Bernard
Reply by Arie de Muynck September 19, 20202020-09-19
On 2020-09-18 21:03, Dmitriy Pshonkin wrote:
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327860836_Investigating_SiC_MOSFET_body_diode's_light_emission_as_Temperature-Sensitive_Electrical_Parameter
Measuring the photo current, and then displaying the value in mV? The forward voltage of the photo diode will be very depending on temperature (threshold, leakage will vary). The diode is placed on top of the FET gel, so it's temperature will also have varied. Apart from the fun fact that light has been observed, this research is practically useless. It should be mandatory to add a well-qualified electronics engineer to scientific teams dabbling with electronics. And to review teams. Arie
Reply by Dmitriy Pshonkin September 18, 20202020-09-18
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327860836_Investigating_SiC_MOSFET_body_diode's_light_emission_as_Temperature-Sensitive_Electrical_Parameter
Reply by September 18, 20202020-09-18
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 09:43:39 +0100, piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 17/09/2020 6:35 pm, John Larkin wrote: >> On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 15:27:38 -0500, "Tim Williams" >> <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes. >>> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/transistors-die-pictures/msg3234138/#msg3234138 >>> >>> Tim >> >> I recall pictures of bipolar transistors emitting weak white light. >> Pease? >> > >Back in 2015 in this group I posted these pics: > ><https://www.dropbox.com/s/6rkc80amj2aybuk/Veb_Setup.jpg?dl=0> > ><https://www.dropbox.com/s/2fvi5i6tsphp0yg/Veb_AvalancheLEQ.jpg?dl=0> > >The e-b in breakdown junction light looked silvery-blue-gray to the >human eye but the phone camera image represents a different color so >possibly a strong IR component too? > >piglet
All sorts of semis may glow, but most are potted in black epoxy. It would be cool to zener a photodiode. They are specifically designed for good optical paths into (thus out of) the semiconductor. A forward-biased compound-semi photodiode probably has some, maybe visible, LED effect. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc Science teaches us to doubt. Claude Bernard
Reply by piglet September 18, 20202020-09-18
On 17/09/2020 6:35 pm, John Larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 15:27:38 -0500, "Tim Williams" > <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com> wrote: > >> Yes. >> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/transistors-die-pictures/msg3234138/#msg3234138 >> >> Tim > > I recall pictures of bipolar transistors emitting weak white light. > Pease? >
Back in 2015 in this group I posted these pics: <https://www.dropbox.com/s/6rkc80amj2aybuk/Veb_Setup.jpg?dl=0> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/2fvi5i6tsphp0yg/Veb_AvalancheLEQ.jpg?dl=0> The e-b in breakdown junction light looked silvery-blue-gray to the human eye but the phone camera image represents a different color so possibly a strong IR component too? piglet