On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 5:14:36 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 19:24:04 -0700, dcaster@krl.org wrote:
> 
> > Bills problem is thinking that posting something makes it true.
> 
> Does this remind you of anyone? Like Bill & Phil for instance?
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiose_delusions

Cursitor Doom thinks that anthropogenic global warming is a scam, and that atmospheric CO2 levels have been stuck at 400 ppm since the internal combustion engine was invented.

There is nothing grandiose about his delusions, he gets them cheap from the people who make a business of selling politically useful nonsense to gullible suckers.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 19:24:04 -0700, dcaster@krl.org wrote:

> Bills problem is thinking that posting something makes it true.

Does this remind you of anyone? Like Bill & Phil for instance?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiose_delusions



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bill....@ieee.org wrote:

>
> > > 
> > > Cursitor Doom doesn't process anything he doesn't agree with,
> > > and consequently learns nothing. He does get a warm glow from
> > > the gullible fraction who share his delusions, but he could
> > > probably get that even faster by mainlining some opioid. 
> > 
> >  ** I reckon he is already doing just that.  
> > 
> > > His head is so far up his bottom that he contemplates his own
> > > navel from behind. 
> > 
> >  ** Clever words, but what you are seeing with CD and his clones 
> > is a full-on, schizophrenic lunatic.
> 
>
> No ethical psychoanalyst would say that. 
>


** But I can say it, cos I know just how looney what he is posting about me is. 

   You have to be me to know that.


> You need at least one face-to-face interview to make that kind of
> diagnosis. 

**  CD is not a real person so cannot be interviewed.



> It does fit with what we see here,


** If the cap fits....




.....   Phil

On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 7:24:08 PM UTC-7, dca...@krl.org wrote:

> Bills problem is thinking that posting something makes it true. 

No, that's John Larkin's problem.   He thinks every clickbait announcement
is probably true.   When it isn't, he blames 'experts'.

On 22/04/19 13:19, dcaster@krl.org wrote:
> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 4:06:15 AM UTC-4, Tom Gardner wrote:
>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ah but  I  do  have evidence to support the claim.  I  know my own
>>> fiances and the fact that you hide your finances is pretty telling.
>> Are you claiming you know Bill's finances? Just guessing doesn't count.
> 
> Just guessing, although I prefer to  call it estimating.
>> 
>> Unless you publish /your/ finances, you are making an unsupported
>> assertion, i.e. probably hot air.
> 
> Could be hot air.  Even if I publish my finances how do you know I am not
> just making up numbers?   If you send me an email at
> dcaster@post.harvard.edu I can send you something that might convince you
> that it is not hot air. And that will   also bolster my claim to have gone to
> Harvard.

It isn't any of my business!

How much money someone has has very little influence on my
opinion of them. I've met all four combinations of good/bad
and rich/poor, and the two axes are almost orthogonal.

And that's the important point.


> I am a bit shy about publishing my finances.  

Quite right too. There's no good reason to do that unless
  - you are running for public office
  - to preempt accusations of hypocracy


> Not because I worry about scam
> artists. Knowing my finances would not be much help for them.   I am just a
> little embarrassed at what I have.   Most of it is  from stocks I bought
> years ago.  I did not do all that much, but have had lots of luck.  Some bad,
> but some very good.
> 
> The keyboard is jittery. I made a wrist support which helps.

Glad that's the reason, but at our age it is unwise
to presume :(

There are many wrist/arm supports on the market. In my
experience (for my sins I was a workstation assessor),
there's no substitute for trying ergonomic aids for
5 minutes. That weeds out many things that aren't
relevant to an individual.

On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 4:06:15 AM UTC-4, Tom Gardner wrote:
> 
> >>> 
> > 
> > Ah but  I  do  have evidence to support the claim.  I  know my own fiances
> > and the fact that you hide your finances is pretty telling.
> Are you claiming you know Bill's finances? Just guessing
> doesn't count.

Just guessing, although I prefer to  call it estimating.
> 
> Unless you publish /your/ finances, you are making an
> unsupported assertion, i.e. probably hot air.

Could be hot air.  Even if I publish my finances how do you know I am not just making up numbers?   If you send me an email at  dcaster@post.harvard.edu I can send you something that might convince you that it is not hot air. And that will   also bolster my claim to have gone to Harvard.   

I am a bit shy about publishing my finances.  Not because I worry about scam artists. Knowing my finances would not be much help for them.   I am just a little embarrassed at what I have.   Most of it is  from stocks I bought years ago.  I did not do all that much, but have had lots of luck.  Some bad, but some very good.

The keyboard is jittery. I made a wrist support which helps.

                                  Dan

> 
> BTW, do you have a jittery space key or Parkinsons? :)

On 22/04/19 03:13, dcaster@krl.org wrote:
> On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 9:49:30 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 4:03:59 AM UTC+10, dca...@krl.org wrote:
>>> On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 12:12:46 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
>>>> You do bolster your ego by claiming to have more money that I do
>>>> (without having any evidence to sustain the claim) and by claiming to
>>>> have been to a better university than I went to (not that it seems to
>>>> have actually educated you).
>>> 
> 
> Ah but  I  do  have evidence to support the claim.  I  know my own fiances
> and the fact that you hide your finances is pretty telling.
Are you claiming you know Bill's finances? Just guessing
doesn't count.

Unless you publish /your/ finances, you are making an
unsupported assertion, i.e. probably hot air.

BTW, do you have a jittery space key or Parkinsons? :)

On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 1:25:40 PM UTC+10, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> 
> >
> > 
> > Cursitor Doom doesn't process anything he doesn't agree with,
> > and consequently learns nothing. He does get a warm glow from
> > the gullible fraction who share his delusions, but he could
> > probably get that even faster by mainlining some opioid. 
> 
>  ** I reckon he is already doing just that.  
> 
> > His head is so far up his bottom that he contemplates his own
> > navel from behind. 
> 
>  ** Clever words, but what you are seeing with CD and his clones is a full-on, schizophrenic lunatic.

No ethical psychoanalyst would say that. You need at least one face-to-face interview to make that kind of diagnosis. It does fit with what we see here, but there are other explanations - he might just be a faked-up figure designed to get ZeroHedge articles spread out beyond the right-wing lunatic fringe.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 12:24:08 PM UTC+10, dca...@krl.org wrote:
> On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 10:13:18 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 11:39:43 AM UTC+10, dca...@krl.org wrote:
> > > On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4, Tom Gardner wrote:
> > > > On 21/04/19 21:27, dcaster@krl.org wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 3:16:16 PM UTC-4, Tom Gardner wrote:
> > > > >> On 21/04/19 19:03, dcaster@krl.org wrote:
> > > > >>> The claim to  having more  money than you  is pretty much fact. You are
> > > > >>> never going to say what your net worth is.  But  I am  reasonably
> > > > >>> confident I am richer. I just post that to tweak you and to remind you
> > > > >>> that there is always some one richer than you  ( and me ).
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Even if it is true, and I'm not aware of any hard evidence of that, ... so
> > > > >> bloody what?
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> What's the point you are trying (and failing) to make?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bill spends a good deal of time putting people down.  A constant flow  of
> > > > > things like  you went to a  good school ,but it was wasted on you. No hard
> > > > > evidence,  but petty insults anyway.    So I remind Bill   that he is not all
> > > > > that smart, not all that educated, and not all that rich.   I only do it when
> > > > > he        insults me or makes a really obvious stupid remark.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So what  I am trying to do is to get Bill to not feel that he  has to try to
> > > > > educate everyone to  his views.   I do not try very hard as I am convinced
> > > > > that Bill is not going to change.
> > > > 
> > > > What's the relevance of presence/absence of money to that?
> > > > 
> > > > My opinion is that Bill does seem to have some macro insults
> > > > programmed into his keyboard, and that they do detract from
> > > > his often relevant and perceptive comments. But his/your money
> > > > is irrelevant to that.
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe you have a left-pondian half-considered attitude
> > > > that someone's value/correctness is measured by money?
> > > 
> > > Do not think that is my problem.
> > 
> > Dan's problem is not thinking. It shows up in a variety of ways.
> 
> Bill's problem is thinking that posting something makes it true. 

I wonder why Dan thinks that? I spend a lot of my time pointing out that people's links to claims on the web are pointing at stuff that has been posted despite the fact that it isn't true, and has been designed to mislead.

Dan's claim that he has more money than I have isn't evidence-based and is designed to mislead. The observable fact that Dan keeps on posting it might suggest that he thinks that repetition could make it more credible, The equally observable fact that he doesn't seem to be able to think makes it more likely that it is merely infantile babbling.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 12:13:31 PM UTC+10, dca...@krl.org wrote:
> On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 9:49:30 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 4:03:59 AM UTC+10, dca...@krl.org wrote:
> > > On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 12:12:46 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Staying in one country does make it easier to build up the kind of network that keeps you in work. Doing the same thing for your whole career would help too - you haven't posted all that much here about what you did, so the suspicion has to be that it wasn't all that interesting or varied.
> > > 
> > >   What I did was too varied to list.  And was interesting to me,  but probably  not all that interesting to those that read SED. I worked in Sunnyvale, Kodiak,        Bangor, and Huntsville. 
> > 
> > This is science.electronics.design. "Interesting" here means having something to do wit electron I just mention it to tweak Bill.  He can not say how much money he has, because it 
> ics. Where you did it doesn't matter much. If you stuck to same industry, the geographical location doesn't make much difference.
> >
> It was all aerospace, some manned rockets, some unmanned rockets, some automated testing,  some satellite  tracking.  Location was important to some of it.
> 
>  
> > > > > You did go I just mention it to tweak Bill.  He can not say how much money he has, because it 
>  to a very good university. Pity it didn't work for you.
> > > > 
> > > > However the main point is that a university education isn't any kind trade certificate, and your delusion that it can be rated on that basis is clear evidence that while you might have been exposed to an educational process, it didn't actually educate you.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > I agree with you that university is not to learn a trade.   I took lots of courses not connected with engineering.  No point in going to a good  university to learn what you can get out of some books. I took three  psych courses,  one on Chinese literature,  one economics  course , but also  learned from my roommate who was an economics major.   And of course the  general education required courses and audited some more courses.
> > 
> > And you got economics lectures from John Kenneth Galbraith - and tried to tell us you called him Kenny. Sad that he wasn't able to teach you anything.
> 
> Another petty remark from someone who has  not taken an economics class.

But did read what J.K. Gailbraith wrote, and seems to have understood more of it than you can.
 
> > > > > > You did go to a very good university. Pity it didn't work for you.
> > >   
> > > > You do bolster your ego by claiming to have more money that I do (without having any evidence to sustain the claim) and by claiming to have been to a better university than I went to (not that it seems to have actually educated you). 
> 
> Ah but  I  do  have evidence to support the claim.  I  know my own fiances  and the fact that you hide your finances is pretty telling.

What sort of idiot would publish his finances on a open-access web-site? Not even you have been that silly. You have got evidence to support half your claim, but you know nothing about my finances, which means that you don't know enough to make any rationally based claim at all.
  
> > > The claim to  having more  money than you  is pretty much fact.
> > 
> > As factual as any other claim based on imagined results.
> > 
> > > You are never going to say what your net worth is.  But  I am  reasonably  confident I am richer. 

There's no reasoning involved, as you'd be aware if you could do joined up logic. You are unreasonably confident that you have more money than I do, but you haven't any rational basis for your confidence.
 
> > Because your judgement sucks.
> 
> My judgement  is just fine.  It is yours that is poor. 

Another example of your poor judgement.

> >I just mention it to tweak Bill.  He can not say how much money he has, because it would show what the truth is.

I won't say how much money I have because it is the kind of information that scam artists exploit. You haven't spelled out your net worth either. 
 
<snipped stuff that Dan hadn't bothered to>
 
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Bill Sloman, Sydney