In physics, we have the Arxiv preprint site, where you can have a look at a lot of papers in publication. It's run sort of like the Royal Society--you have to have a member submit the paper for you, which keeps down the spammers and cranks.
It also goes a long way towards solving the fast vs slow journal problem in hot fields. (I don't read that many recent physics papers.)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Reply by Chris Jones●May 7, 20152015-05-07
On 06/05/2015 23:56, Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Wed, 06 May 2015 01:57:48 -0400, Phil Hobbs
> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/5/2015 5:20 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>> AoE 3 P. 485 (footnote 22) references a paper by Broderson, Chenette
>>> & Jaeger, entitled "A Superior Low Noise Amplifier", 1970 ISSC, P.
>>> 164. Before I feed yet another $31 into the voracious maw of the
>>> IEEE, does anybody have a copy handy?
>>>
>>
>> Received a copy from the estimable John M in Scotland. Interesting bit
>> of work, but only a couple of pages long--about $15 per page from the
>> ever-generous IEEE. Thanks, John!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Phil Hobbs
>
> What annoys me is that virtually all of this research is funded by the
> taxpayer, so we get to pay twice :-(
>
> Maybe a lawsuit is in order?
>
> ...Jim Thompson
>
I think the IEEE probably doesn't own the copyright on the US Govt
research. When I worked for a company and submitted a conference paper
to ISSCC they made me sign something to assign the copyright to them,
like this form:
https://www.ieee.org/documents/ieeecopyrightform.pdf
You will notice the section for US and UK government employees to sign -
where they concede that where the funding body won't give the IEEE all
of their rights, the IEEE is still happy to publish the paper anyway.
Admittedly the IEEE can still coerce authors into handing over right to
a lot of papers that are only indirectly government-funded.
If you could compile a database of all of those papers that the IEEE
does not own the rights to, and put those papers online, I doubt the
IEEE could do a thing about it, and may get in trouble if it tries.
Anyway I don't intend to sign any more if the IEEE's copyright
assignment forms, if they ever do want to print something of mine in future.
I would like for a referendum of IEEE members to be held, about whether
papers over 5 years old should be automatically open-access to members,
and whether the papers should also be open-access to the public. I think
most members would want at least older papers to be open-access, and
most corporate subscribers to IEEE journals would keep paying for
immediate access. I would like such a referendum to be held, not because
I think the IEEE would obey the outcome, but because their reaction
would demonstrate whose interest the IEEE management works for.
Chris
Reply by John Miles, KE5FX●May 6, 20152015-05-06
On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 7:59:10 AM UTC-7, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> The Optical Society is more generous--I get 50 or something downloads
> included with my $100 per year membership, which is a lot more reasonable.
This is also how the IEEE Digital Library program works, except it's more like $40/month. It's violently annoying to pay that for research that was largely taxpayer-funded in the first place, but it's also a hard habit to break.
For one-off requests, try /r/scholar on Reddit.
-- john, KE5FX
Reply by John Larkin●May 6, 20152015-05-06
On Wed, 06 May 2015 07:57:18 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 06 May 2015 07:09:13 -0700, John Larkin
><jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 06 May 2015 06:56:19 -0700, Jim Thompson
>><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 06 May 2015 01:57:48 -0400, Phil Hobbs
>>><pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 5/5/2015 5:20 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>>>> AoE 3 P. 485 (footnote 22) references a paper by Broderson, Chenette
>>>>> & Jaeger, entitled "A Superior Low Noise Amplifier", 1970 ISSC, P.
>>>>> 164. Before I feed yet another $31 into the voracious maw of the
>>>>> IEEE, does anybody have a copy handy?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Received a copy from the estimable John M in Scotland. Interesting bit
>>>>of work, but only a couple of pages long--about $15 per page from the
>>>>ever-generous IEEE. Thanks, John!
>>>>
>>>>Cheers
>>>>
>>>>Phil Hobbs
>>>
>>>What annoys me is that virtually all of this research is funded by the
>>>taxpayer, so we get to pay twice :-(
>>>
>>>Maybe a lawsuit is in order?
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>>The abstracts are written to make it unclear whether the paper might
>>be useful. You have to buy the whole thing to find out. It's better to
>>assume that it's not useful, which is the general case.
>
>Certainly a lot of it is pure gibberish. But I have a PhD buddy who
>gets me copies (for free) of anything I find interesting.
>
> ...Jim Thompson
I can go to the nearby UC Med Center library. For a min of $20, I can
buy a printer card, which lets me print things for $1 a page. They
have all the major journals online. I can look at them on a PC, and
print just the pages I want.
I do that on an occasional binge basis, maybe once a year, when I need
to learn something new. Last one was Fourier Transform Mass
Spectroscopy. I might research sub-Abbe-resolution fluorescent
microscopy soon.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing laser drivers and controllers
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
Reply by Phil Hobbs●May 6, 20152015-05-06
On 5/6/2015 10:57 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Wed, 06 May 2015 07:09:13 -0700, John Larkin
> <jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 06 May 2015 06:56:19 -0700, Jim Thompson
>> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 06 May 2015 01:57:48 -0400, Phil Hobbs
>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/5/2015 5:20 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>>>> AoE 3 P. 485 (footnote 22) references a paper by Broderson, Chenette
>>>>> & Jaeger, entitled "A Superior Low Noise Amplifier", 1970 ISSC, P.
>>>>> 164. Before I feed yet another $31 into the voracious maw of the
>>>>> IEEE, does anybody have a copy handy?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Received a copy from the estimable John M in Scotland. Interesting bit
>>>> of work, but only a couple of pages long--about $15 per page from the
>>>> ever-generous IEEE. Thanks, John!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Phil Hobbs
>>>
>>> What annoys me is that virtually all of this research is funded by the
>>> taxpayer, so we get to pay twice :-(
>>>
>>> Maybe a lawsuit is in order?
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>> The abstracts are written to make it unclear whether the paper might
>> be useful. You have to buy the whole thing to find out. It's better to
>> assume that it's not useful, which is the general case.
>
> Certainly a lot of it is pure gibberish. But I have a PhD buddy who
> gets me copies (for free) of anything I find interesting.
>
> ...Jim Thompson
>
The Optical Society is more generous--I get 50 or something downloads
included with my $100 per year membership, which is a lot more reasonable.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
Reply by Jim Thompson●May 6, 20152015-05-06
On Wed, 06 May 2015 07:09:13 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 06 May 2015 06:56:19 -0700, Jim Thompson
><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 06 May 2015 01:57:48 -0400, Phil Hobbs
>><pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 5/5/2015 5:20 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>>> AoE 3 P. 485 (footnote 22) references a paper by Broderson, Chenette
>>>> & Jaeger, entitled "A Superior Low Noise Amplifier", 1970 ISSC, P.
>>>> 164. Before I feed yet another $31 into the voracious maw of the
>>>> IEEE, does anybody have a copy handy?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Received a copy from the estimable John M in Scotland. Interesting bit
>>>of work, but only a couple of pages long--about $15 per page from the
>>>ever-generous IEEE. Thanks, John!
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>
>>>Phil Hobbs
>>
>>What annoys me is that virtually all of this research is funded by the
>>taxpayer, so we get to pay twice :-(
>>
>>Maybe a lawsuit is in order?
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>
>The abstracts are written to make it unclear whether the paper might
>be useful. You have to buy the whole thing to find out. It's better to
>assume that it's not useful, which is the general case.
Certainly a lot of it is pure gibberish. But I have a PhD buddy who
gets me copies (for free) of anything I find interesting.
...Jim Thompson
--
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply by Phil Hobbs●May 6, 20152015-05-06
On 5/6/2015 9:24 AM, sroberts6328@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Some Engineering student or professor on campus goes around exercising his freedom of speech. He pops up A4 posters reading:
>
> "IEEE Transactions on Opportunity Hoarding"
>
> Steve
>
Unfortunately that title doesn't narrow it down very much. ;)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
Reply by Phil Hobbs●May 6, 20152015-05-06
On 5/6/2015 10:24 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
> Den onsdag den 6. maj 2015 kl. 16.09.39 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
>> On Wed, 06 May 2015 06:56:19 -0700, Jim Thompson
>> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 06 May 2015 01:57:48 -0400, Phil Hobbs
>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/5/2015 5:20 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>>>> AoE 3 P. 485 (footnote 22) references a paper by Broderson, Chenette
>>>>> & Jaeger, entitled "A Superior Low Noise Amplifier", 1970 ISSC, P.
>>>>> 164. Before I feed yet another $31 into the voracious maw of the
>>>>> IEEE, does anybody have a copy handy?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Received a copy from the estimable John M in Scotland. Interesting bit
>>>> of work, but only a couple of pages long--about $15 per page from the
>>>> ever-generous IEEE. Thanks, John!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Phil Hobbs
>>>
>>> What annoys me is that virtually all of this research is funded by the
>>> taxpayer, so we get to pay twice :-(
>>>
>>> Maybe a lawsuit is in order?
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>> The abstracts are written to make it unclear whether the paper might
>> be useful. You have to buy the whole thing to find out. It's better to
>> assume that it's not useful, which is the general case.
>>
>
> it's 2 pages with four graphs and two rough schematics
>
> here anyone can walk in to university library and see it for free,
> or if you are on a university network just download it
>
>
> -Lasse
>
Same here, but my spending an afternoon driving to the city and back
would cost the customer a lot of 31 buckses. There's an outfit called
DeepDyve that lets you take a squint at the paper for 6 bucks or so
before buying it, iirc, which is better but still annoying.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
Reply by Lasse Langwadt Christensen●May 6, 20152015-05-06
Den onsdag den 6. maj 2015 kl. 16.09.39 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> On Wed, 06 May 2015 06:56:19 -0700, Jim Thompson
> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 06 May 2015 01:57:48 -0400, Phil Hobbs
> ><pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
> >
> >>On 5/5/2015 5:20 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> >>> AoE 3 P. 485 (footnote 22) references a paper by Broderson, Chenette
> >>> & Jaeger, entitled "A Superior Low Noise Amplifier", 1970 ISSC, P.
> >>> 164. Before I feed yet another $31 into the voracious maw of the
> >>> IEEE, does anybody have a copy handy?
> >>>
> >>
> >>Received a copy from the estimable John M in Scotland. Interesting bit
> >>of work, but only a couple of pages long--about $15 per page from the
> >>ever-generous IEEE. Thanks, John!
> >>
> >>Cheers
> >>
> >>Phil Hobbs
> >
> >What annoys me is that virtually all of this research is funded by the
> >taxpayer, so we get to pay twice :-(
> >
> >Maybe a lawsuit is in order?
> >
> > ...Jim Thompson
>
> The abstracts are written to make it unclear whether the paper might
> be useful. You have to buy the whole thing to find out. It's better to
> assume that it's not useful, which is the general case.
>
it's 2 pages with four graphs and two rough schematics
here anyone can walk in to university library and see it for free,
or if you are on a university network just download it
-Lasse
Reply by John Larkin●May 6, 20152015-05-06
On Wed, 06 May 2015 06:56:19 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 06 May 2015 01:57:48 -0400, Phil Hobbs
><pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>
>>On 5/5/2015 5:20 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>> AoE 3 P. 485 (footnote 22) references a paper by Broderson, Chenette
>>> & Jaeger, entitled "A Superior Low Noise Amplifier", 1970 ISSC, P.
>>> 164. Before I feed yet another $31 into the voracious maw of the
>>> IEEE, does anybody have a copy handy?
>>>
>>
>>Received a copy from the estimable John M in Scotland. Interesting bit
>>of work, but only a couple of pages long--about $15 per page from the
>>ever-generous IEEE. Thanks, John!
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Phil Hobbs
>
>What annoys me is that virtually all of this research is funded by the
>taxpayer, so we get to pay twice :-(
>
>Maybe a lawsuit is in order?
>
> ...Jim Thompson
The abstracts are written to make it unclear whether the paper might
be useful. You have to buy the whole thing to find out. It's better to
assume that it's not useful, which is the general case.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing laser drivers and controllers
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com