Reply by Michael A. Terrell October 9, 20142014-10-09
Jasen Betts wrote:
> > On 2014-09-28, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 9/27/2014 3:02 PM, rickman wrote: > > > > I looked online for a rebuild kit for my alternator and I did not find > > any. eBay lists a couple for the 4 cyl engine in this truck, but not my > > 3.4 V-6. That rebuild kit didn't include the diodes anyway, only > > bearings and brushes. I guess I'll be stuck with buying a rebuilt one. > > Too bad, I would like to tear one apart. > > Go to an auto elecric supplies place, they'll have diodes.
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Reply by Michael A. Terrell October 9, 20142014-10-09
"Maynard A. Philbrook Jr." wrote:
> > In article <832785067433387808.480825address_is- > invalid.invalid@shawnews>, address_is@invalid.invalid says... > > > > amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote: > > > On 9/25/2014 4:02 PM, RobertMacy wrote: > > >> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 09:56:44 -0700, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> ...snip TOO much!.... > > >>> > > >> > > >> I had this exact, same symptom with my auto, 1972 classic. intermittent > > >> start, > > >> > > >> never got to measure but discovered that there was a build up of crud > > >> between the battery cable and the clamp to the battery cable that caused > > >> the whole problem. if not at battery, somewhere else along the path? > > > > > > Except that, when the starter fails to run I still have 11.9 volts on > > > the input side of the solenoid, when the starter does run the voltage > > > drops to 10.7 volts. Which I suggest is very close to battery voltage under starter load. > > > I'm fairly confident the problem is the contacts in the solenoid. > > > But as I've said I fixed the oil leak right above the starter/solenoid, > > > and hope to burn off any oil by use. The last 100 starter attempts > > > produce no failures. As I said very intermittent. > > > (or cleared itself he wrote with fingers crossed) > > > > > > Mikek > > > > I believe I've seen two problems on Toyotas. First was that the stationary > > contacts that the solenoid bridges got so worn that the solenoid would no > > longer reliably bridge them. Secondly, I believe I have also seen the > > brushes in the starter wear down to the point where they no longer made > > contact with the commutator and again, things stopped working (or maybe > > that was my compound mitre saw). > > I'll put my 2 cents in..
Don't.
> Possible engine ground strap is loose and with all that oil running > down the side, the attempts to start is heating up the bad joint and > cooking the oil away, then has a semi connection to start, and it may > start ok for some time after that.
Ground strap? The negative battery cable should go to the engine block. The strap is to connect the engine to the chassis. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
Reply by Jasen Betts September 30, 20142014-09-30
On 2014-09-29, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/29/2014 12:49 AM, Jasen Betts wrote: >> On 2014-09-28, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 9/27/2014 3:02 PM, rickman wrote: >>> >>> I looked online for a rebuild kit for my alternator and I did not find >>> any. eBay lists a couple for the 4 cyl engine in this truck, but not my >>> 3.4 V-6. That rebuild kit didn't include the diodes anyway, only >>> bearings and brushes. I guess I'll be stuck with buying a rebuilt one. >>> Too bad, I would like to tear one apart. >> >> Go to an auto elecric supplies place, they'll have diodes. > > Yeah, I typed "auto elecric supplies place" into Google and didn't find > much.
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Reply by Maynard A. Philbrook Jr. September 29, 20142014-09-29
In article <m0cs6v$uhp$1@dont-email.me>, gnuarm@gmail.com says...
> The local rebuild shop around here actually change the > > button and trio pack diodes, they normally do not do the > > preassemble pack, as it cost much more. They are very skilled > > at popping out the old diodes themselves. I've done one > > myself. Other types are pressed into the case, those come with > > a wire coming out one side, also cheap. > > > > Years ago I purchased a bunch of diodes for alternators, the > > single end wire types and made a heat sink for them to be pressed > > into. It was a low voltage high amp supply we needed and I can a > > colling fan on it. They diodes were cheap gotten that way. > > I have yet to find anyone local who does this. > > -- > > Rick > >
They call that lack of skill set in your area. Our local shop not only does that but they also rewind for high price units. That also includes starters. Jamie
Reply by rickman September 29, 20142014-09-29
On 9/29/2014 7:31 PM, Maynard A. Philbrook Jr. wrote:
> In article <m0clkr$o11$1@dont-email.me>, gnuarm@gmail.com says... >>> >>>> I expect I'll just get an alternator. >>> >>> THen they are filling you with bull shit, most likely because >>> they they have the alternator and need to order out the diode >>> pack. >> >> Who is "they"? The Internet? eBay? >> >> >> > > "They" , the associates at the parts store you found > the diode package. > > They don't cost that much.
Duh, but I can't buy something I can't find anyone to sell.
> I would be willing to bet if that was your experience > then maybe they are trying to discourage those like yourself > from rebuilding their own alternators so they can keep > the local rebuild shop in business and profits high for both.
I think they are trying to make money. This was a web site, NAPA. I think they don't give a rat's ass what I do or anyone else. They buy stuff, mark it up and resell it. I only wish I could find a local rebuild shop. There used to be one where I grew up. In fact, I worked there for a bit. They went out of business many years ago. How much money can you save paying someone to rebuild your alternator when you can install a rebuilt one and not have to wait the several days to get yours rebuilt? Their main customers were private repair facilities like the limestone quarry or the school board (buses). They sold *very* few to individuals.
> The local rebuild shop around here actually change the > button and trio pack diodes, they normally do not do the > preassemble pack, as it cost much more. They are very skilled > at popping out the old diodes themselves. I've done one > myself. Other types are pressed into the case, those come with > a wire coming out one side, also cheap. > > Years ago I purchased a bunch of diodes for alternators, the > single end wire types and made a heat sink for them to be pressed > into. It was a low voltage high amp supply we needed and I can a > colling fan on it. They diodes were cheap gotten that way.
I have yet to find anyone local who does this. -- Rick
Reply by Maynard A. Philbrook Jr. September 29, 20142014-09-29
In article <m0clkr$o11$1@dont-email.me>, gnuarm@gmail.com says...
> > > >> I expect I'll just get an alternator. > > > > THen they are filling you with bull shit, most likely because > > they they have the alternator and need to order out the diode > > pack. > > Who is "they"? The Internet? eBay? > > >
"They" , the associates at the parts store you found the diode package. They don't cost that much. I would be willing to bet if that was your experience then maybe they are trying to discourage those like yourself from rebuilding their own alternators so they can keep the local rebuild shop in business and profits high for both. The local rebuild shop around here actually change the button and trio pack diodes, they normally do not do the preassemble pack, as it cost much more. They are very skilled at popping out the old diodes themselves. I've done one myself. Other types are pressed into the case, those come with a wire coming out one side, also cheap. Years ago I purchased a bunch of diodes for alternators, the single end wire types and made a heat sink for them to be pressed into. It was a low voltage high amp supply we needed and I can a colling fan on it. They diodes were cheap gotten that way. Jamie
Reply by rickman September 29, 20142014-09-29
On 9/29/2014 5:06 PM, Maynard A. Philbrook Jr. wrote:
> In article <m0b2g2$lsf$1@dont-email.me>, gnuarm@gmail.com says... >> >> On 9/29/2014 12:49 AM, Jasen Betts wrote: >>> On 2014-09-28, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 9/27/2014 3:02 PM, rickman wrote: >>>> >>>> I looked online for a rebuild kit for my alternator and I did not find >>>> any. eBay lists a couple for the 4 cyl engine in this truck, but not my >>>> 3.4 V-6. That rebuild kit didn't include the diodes anyway, only >>>> bearings and brushes. I guess I'll be stuck with buying a rebuilt one. >>>> Too bad, I would like to tear one apart. >>> >>> Go to an auto elecric supplies place, they'll have diodes. >> >> Yeah, I typed "auto elecric supplies place" into Google and didn't find >> much. I did find NAPA who has the rectifier. They want $133 for an >> alternator or $144 for the rectifier... >> >> I expect I'll just get an alternator. > > THen they are filling you with bull shit, most likely because > they they have the alternator and need to order out the diode > pack.
Who is "they"? The Internet? eBay? -- Rick
Reply by Lasse Langwadt Christensen September 29, 20142014-09-29
Den mandag den 29. september 2014 09.41.31 UTC+2 skrev rickman:
> On 9/29/2014 12:49 AM, Jasen Betts wrote: > > > On 2014-09-28, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On 9/27/2014 3:02 PM, rickman wrote: > > >> > > >> I looked online for a rebuild kit for my alternator and I did not find > > >> any. eBay lists a couple for the 4 cyl engine in this truck, but not my > > >> 3.4 V-6. That rebuild kit didn't include the diodes anyway, only > > >> bearings and brushes. I guess I'll be stuck with buying a rebuilt one. > > >> Too bad, I would like to tear one apart. > > > > > > Go to an auto elecric supplies place, they'll have diodes. > > > > Yeah, I typed "auto elecric supplies place" into Google and didn't find > > much. I did find NAPA who has the rectifier. They want $133 for an > > alternator or $144 for the rectifier... > > > > I expect I'll just get an alternator. >
http://store.alternatorparts.com/nippondenso-3.aspx ? -Lasse
Reply by Maynard A. Philbrook Jr. September 29, 20142014-09-29
In article <m0b2g2$lsf$1@dont-email.me>, gnuarm@gmail.com says...
> > On 9/29/2014 12:49 AM, Jasen Betts wrote: > > On 2014-09-28, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 9/27/2014 3:02 PM, rickman wrote: > >> > >> I looked online for a rebuild kit for my alternator and I did not find > >> any. eBay lists a couple for the 4 cyl engine in this truck, but not my > >> 3.4 V-6. That rebuild kit didn't include the diodes anyway, only > >> bearings and brushes. I guess I'll be stuck with buying a rebuilt one. > >> Too bad, I would like to tear one apart. > > > > Go to an auto elecric supplies place, they'll have diodes. > > Yeah, I typed "auto elecric supplies place" into Google and didn't find > much. I did find NAPA who has the rectifier. They want $133 for an > alternator or $144 for the rectifier... > > I expect I'll just get an alternator.
THen they are filling you with bull shit, most likely because they they have the alternator and need to order out the diode pack. Jamie
Reply by rickman September 29, 20142014-09-29
On 9/29/2014 12:49 AM, Jasen Betts wrote:
> On 2014-09-28, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 9/27/2014 3:02 PM, rickman wrote: >> >> I looked online for a rebuild kit for my alternator and I did not find >> any. eBay lists a couple for the 4 cyl engine in this truck, but not my >> 3.4 V-6. That rebuild kit didn't include the diodes anyway, only >> bearings and brushes. I guess I'll be stuck with buying a rebuilt one. >> Too bad, I would like to tear one apart. > > Go to an auto elecric supplies place, they'll have diodes.
Yeah, I typed "auto elecric supplies place" into Google and didn't find much. I did find NAPA who has the rectifier. They want $133 for an alternator or $144 for the rectifier... I expect I'll just get an alternator. -- Rick