Reply by Michael A. Terrell August 22, 20142014-08-22
"Maynard A. Philbrook Jr." wrote:
> > In article <eb3645b4-86de-495d-94ae-c5bd0893b97f@googlegroups.com>, > trevordally23@gmail.com says... > > > > I live in the U.S. State Minnesota. Hope it helps. > > You guys would drool over this, I still have one of these. > B & K 1403 in great shape!
A cheap piece of '60s TV shop crap.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/spike55151/207509920/ > > I have not turned it on for some time but I know it works.. > > Maybe I'll part with it :)
Use it for a wheel chock. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
Reply by Neon John August 19, 20142014-08-19
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:02:07 -0700 (PDT), trevordally23@gmail.com
wrote:

>Cassete size? Is it one of those small hand size ones?
Yeah, cassette size is a good description. I'm a geezer so I use mine with an 8x OptiVisor but younger eyes should do just fine as-is. John John DeArmond http://www.neon-john.com http://www.fluxeon.com Tellico Plains, Occupied TN See website for email address
Reply by August 18, 20142014-08-18
Cassete size? Is it one of those small hand size ones?
Reply by Neon John August 17, 20142014-08-17
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 01:07:06 -0700 (PDT), trevordally23@gmail.com
wrote:

>Hi I just checked this and john I would like to have the oscilloscope and i'm wondering where on the website your email is? All of the emails are to fluxeon.com. I couldn't find the other site so i don't know if it was there.
Forgot to add. The scope is usable as-is. You simply have to look at the display at about a 45 deg angle off to the left. One of the guys on the Seeed forum pointed to an inexpensive replacement LCD. Since it's Open Source, it should be easy to fix. John John DeArmond http://www.neon-john.com http://www.fluxeon.com Tellico Plains, Occupied TN See website for email address
Reply by Neon John August 17, 20142014-08-17
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 01:07:06 -0700 (PDT), trevordally23@gmail.com
wrote:

>Hi I just checked this and john I would like to have the oscilloscope and i'm wondering where on the website your email is? All of the emails are to fluxeon.com. I couldn't find the other site so i don't know if it was there.
My personal site is www.neon-john.com. My email is jgd @ neon-john.com. Send me postage for a small (video cassette size) Flat Rate Box and your address to John DeArmond PO box 545 Tellico Plains, TN 37385 I live on a remote mountaintop and only go to town about twice a month. Include your email address and I'll notify you when I send it. John John DeArmond http://www.neon-john.com http://www.fluxeon.com Tellico Plains, Occupied TN See website for email address
Reply by August 17, 20142014-08-17
Hi I just checked this and john I would like to have the oscilloscope and i'm wondering where on the website your email is? All of the emails are to fluxeon.com. I couldn't find the other site so i don't know if it was there.
Reply by Martin Riddle August 15, 20142014-08-15
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:25:39 -0700 (PDT), jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:

>>"live in the U.S. State Minnesota. Hope it helps. " > >Nope. I just for the hell of it did a web search for electronics surplus places there and went to a few websites, and there ain't all tha tmuch. > >Someone mentioned eBay, which is alright but you can't check things out before buying. You get Craigslist there ? That can be a good source for some things, like scopes. Deal face to face and at least you can check the thing out. > >Definitely get an old style analog scope, referred to as a CRO. Keep it simple. Try to get a trace on the screen that moves with the positioning controls fo less than fifty bucks. They are out there. > >Textronix is the last word in analog scopes. However, a Tenma works just fine. The Tek will have a better trigger circuit, but other than that, the El Chepo wil work just fine for most things. I would say get just about anyting, 15 or 20 mHz bandwith. That is plenty to learn on. I have an old 422 and a Tenma 72 dash someting, and there is really not all that much difreence. Of course the old Tek can withstand a nuclear holocaust, but if that happens I don;t really care. > >Or maybe we'll sell you the HP. Not top buck because it is not aful alignment and the dual timebase doesn't work. But it will come with a parts unit. At 275 mHz it is one of the fastest analog CROs ever built. Alot of the newer ones digitize the input and read it to the CRT at a slower speed. This is one of the last "real" ones. Belongs to my partner, not sure what he would take for it but if interested ask and I will ask. The best scope we got right now, BUT, we are Tektronix people. The HP is a 1725a. I had to put the vertical outpurt IC in it and then found the dual timebase doesn't work. Decided I don't care and there it sits. You could probably take a board from the parts ubit and et that function working. And then you have to learn how to use it. I wouldn't bother in the beginning. As a scope it already works.
I still have my Tema, bought it new back in the 80's. I see there are a few on ebay that command a fairly high price. WHat is nice about it was the component Bannana input, makes checking zeners easy. Just be careful, some of the CRT's don't have the brightness they once had. Good thing is the manuals always had the schematics in them. Cheers
Reply by Maynard A. Philbrook Jr. August 15, 20142014-08-15
In article <eb3645b4-86de-495d-94ae-c5bd0893b97f@googlegroups.com>, 
trevordally23@gmail.com says...
> > I live in the U.S. State Minnesota. Hope it helps.
You guys would drool over this, I still have one of these. B & K 1403 in great shape! https://www.flickr.com/photos/spike55151/207509920/ I have not turned it on for some time but I know it works.. Maybe I'll part with it :) Jamie
Reply by Neon John August 15, 20142014-08-15
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:49:38 -0700 (PDT), trevordally23@gmail.com
wrote:

>Hi I have just started in electronics and have started to think about getting an oscilloscope. I don't have enough money for the $400 digital oscilloscopes. My family does not have a lot of money and the ones on ebay are still too much expensive. I'm just wondering if anyone has an old analog oscilloscope that I could have. Thanks :)
Instead of begging, I suggest you do some odd jobs around your neighborhood, save up about $100 and buy a Mini-DSO scope. I see single channel versions on sleazebay for around $70 and 4 channel ones for around $150. This is an open source design done by Seeed Studios and released to the public. Several chicom manufacturers have picked up on the design and are making clones but I stick with the nice metal-cased Seeed original. I keep several around the lab. The 4 channels are sometimes invaluable and if I smoke one, no tears shed. In fact, I have 4 channel one right now that has a low contrast screen problem that I'll give you if you want to hack it and see what's wrong. get my email address from my website. No scope probes included - you'll have to buy those yourself (~$20) but then what do you expect for free? John John DeArmond http://www.neon-john.com http://www.fluxeon.com Tellico Plains, Occupied TN See website for email address
Reply by August 15, 20142014-08-15
>"live in the U.S. State Minnesota. Hope it helps. "
Nope. I just for the hell of it did a web search for electronics surplus pl= aces there and went to a few websites, and there ain't all tha tmuch.=20 Someone mentioned eBay, which is alright but you can't check things out bef= ore buying. You get Craigslist there ? That can be a good source for some t= hings, like scopes. Deal face to face and at least you can check the thing = out.=20 Definitely get an old style analog scope, referred to as a CRO. Keep it sim= ple. Try to get a trace on the screen that moves with the positioning contr= ols fo less than fifty bucks. They are out there.=20 Textronix is the last word in analog scopes. However, a Tenma works just fi= ne. The Tek will have a better trigger circuit, but other than that, the El= Chepo wil work just fine for most things. I would say get just about anyti= ng, 15 or 20 mHz bandwith. That is plenty to learn on. I have an old 422 an= d a Tenma 72 dash someting, and there is really not all that much difreence= . Of course the old Tek can withstand a nuclear holocaust, but if that happ= ens I don;t really care.=20 Or maybe we'll sell you the HP. Not top buck because it is not aful alignme= nt and the dual timebase doesn't work. But it will come with a parts unit. = At 275 mHz it is one of the fastest analog CROs ever built. Alot of the new= er ones digitize the input and read it to the CRT at a slower speed. This i= s one of the last "real" ones. Belongs to my partner, not sure what he woul= d take for it but if interested ask and I will ask. The best scope we got r= ight now, BUT, we are Tektronix people. The HP is a 1725a. I had to put the= vertical outpurt IC in it and then found the dual timebase doesn't work. D= ecided I don't care and there it sits. You could probably take a board from= the parts ubit and et that function working. And then you have to learn ho= w to use it. I wouldn't bother in the beginning. As a scope it already work= s.