Reply by George Herold November 8, 20112011-11-08
On Nov 8, 5:14=A0pm, Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 4:26 pm, George Herold <gher...@teachspin.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Nov 8, 4:27 am,BillSloman<bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote: > > > > On Nov 8, 12:56 am, Klaus Kragelund <klausk...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > I am looking for the original paper from 1954 that George Royer did=
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> > > > his Royer converter circuit: > > > > > "Transistors as on-off switches in saturable-core circuits" in > > > > Electrical Manufactoring > > > > > Anyone know where I can get this? > > > > Jim Williams did. From his AN-55 > > > >http://cds.linear.com/docs/Application%20Note/an55fa.pdf > > > > Bright, Pittman and Royer, =93Transistors as On-Off > > > Switches in Saturable Core Circuits,=94 Electrical > > > Manufacturing, December 1954. Available from > > > Technomic Publishing, Lancaster, PA. > > > Bill, didn't you (or someone else) have a copy of this paper? =A0I thin=
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> > someone sent me a pdf via email (upon request). > > I can't seem to 'unearth' it at the moment... about time to do a desk > > cleaning/ filing. > > The original Baxandall paper on sine-wave transistor inverters is on > my web-site > > > I've finally got around to making a .pdf of Peter Baxanadall's 1959 > > paper on Transistor Sine-Wave LC oscillators - Baxandall, P.J, Proc > > I.E.E 106, B, 748 (1959) - available on my web-site at > > >http://home.planet.nl/~sloma000/0344_001_Baxandal.pdf > > but it was published five years later than the Royer paper, which > concerns itself with square-wave inverters, and didn't much impress me > when I read it, back in 1970. > > -- > Bill Sloman, Nijmegen- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
Thanks, That's was I was thinking about. George H.
Reply by Joerg November 8, 20112011-11-08
Klaus Kragelund wrote:
> On 8 Nov., 10:27, Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote: >> On Nov 8, 12:56 am, Klaus Kragelund <klausk...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> I am looking for the original paper from 1954 that George Royer did on >>> his Royer converter circuit: >>> "Transistors as on-off switches in saturable-core circuits" in >>> Electrical Manufactoring >>> Anyone know where I can get this? >> Jim Williams did. From his AN-55 >> >> http://cds.linear.com/docs/Application%20Note/an55fa.pdf >> >> Bright, Pittman and Royer, &#4294967295;Transistors as On-Off >> Switches in Saturable Core Circuits,&#4294967295; Electrical >> Manufacturing, December 1954. Available from >> Technomic Publishing, Lancaster, PA. >> > > Thanks. I was hoping for a link on the internet, getting this from the > overseas source is through my local library and may end up to be a > hurdle :-) >
If you are signed up with the local university library or know someone who is, they can often get you a copy much faster than a city library. Some of the really old stuff is only on microfiche but the copy fees are usually modest. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
Reply by Bill Sloman November 8, 20112011-11-08
On Nov 8, 4:26 pm, George Herold <gher...@teachspin.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 4:27 am,BillSloman<bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote: > > > On Nov 8, 12:56 am, Klaus Kragelund <klausk...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > I am looking for the original paper from 1954 that George Royer did o=
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> > > his Royer converter circuit: > > > > "Transistors as on-off switches in saturable-core circuits" in > > > Electrical Manufactoring > > > > Anyone know where I can get this? > > > Jim Williams did. From his AN-55 > > >http://cds.linear.com/docs/Application%20Note/an55fa.pdf > > > Bright, Pittman and Royer, =93Transistors as On-Off > > Switches in Saturable Core Circuits,=94 Electrical > > Manufacturing, December 1954. Available from > > Technomic Publishing, Lancaster, PA. > > Bill, didn't you (or someone else) have a copy of this paper? I think > someone sent me a pdf via email (upon request). > I can't seem to 'unearth' it at the moment... about time to do a desk > cleaning/ filing.
The original Baxandall paper on sine-wave transistor inverters is on my web-site
> I've finally got around to making a .pdf of Peter Baxanadall's 1959 > paper on Transistor Sine-Wave LC oscillators - Baxandall, P.J, Proc > I.E.E 106, B, 748 (1959) - available on my web-site at > > http://home.planet.nl/~sloma000/0344_001_Baxandal.pdf
but it was published five years later than the Royer paper, which concerns itself with square-wave inverters, and didn't much impress me when I read it, back in 1970. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
Reply by Klaus Kragelund November 8, 20112011-11-08
On 8 Nov., 10:27, Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 12:56=A0am, Klaus Kragelund <klausk...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi > > > I am looking for the original paper from 1954 that George Royer did on > > his Royer converter circuit: > > > "Transistors as on-off switches in saturable-core circuits" in > > Electrical Manufactoring > > > Anyone know where I can get this? > > Jim Williams did. From his AN-55 > > http://cds.linear.com/docs/Application%20Note/an55fa.pdf > > Bright, Pittman and Royer, =93Transistors as On-Off > Switches in Saturable Core Circuits,=94 Electrical > Manufacturing, December 1954. Available from > Technomic Publishing, Lancaster, PA. >
Thanks. I was hoping for a link on the internet, getting this from the overseas source is through my local library and may end up to be a hurdle :-) Regards Klaus
Reply by George Herold November 8, 20112011-11-08
On Nov 8, 4:27=A0am, Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 12:56=A0am, Klaus Kragelund <klausk...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi > > > I am looking for the original paper from 1954 that George Royer did on > > his Royer converter circuit: > > > "Transistors as on-off switches in saturable-core circuits" in > > Electrical Manufactoring > > > Anyone know where I can get this? > > Jim Williams did. From his AN-55 > > http://cds.linear.com/docs/Application%20Note/an55fa.pdf > > Bright, Pittman and Royer, =93Transistors as On-Off > Switches in Saturable Core Circuits,=94 Electrical > Manufacturing, December 1954. Available from > Technomic Publishing, Lancaster, PA. > > -- > Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
Bill, didn't you (or someone else) have a copy of this paper? I think someone sent me a pdf via email (upon request). I can't seem to 'unearth' it at the moment... about time to do a desk cleaning/ filing. George H.
Reply by Jim Thompson November 8, 20112011-11-08
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:15:38 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:37:42 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson ><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > >>On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 19:10:40 -0500, Spehro Pefhany >><speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:59:51 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson >>><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 15:56:24 -0800 (PST), Klaus Kragelund >>>><klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hi >>>>> >>>>>I am looking for the original paper from 1954 that George Royer did on >>>>>his Royer converter circuit: >>>>> >>>>>"Transistors as on-off switches in saturable-core circuits" in >>>>>Electrical Manufactoring >>>>> >>>>>Anyone know where I can get this? >>>>> >>>>>Regards >>>>> >>>>>Klaus >>>> >>>>1954? There weren't a lot of transistors around in 1954... only >>>>Geranium junk, surface-barrier and point contact ;-) >>>> >>>> ...Jim Thompson >>> >>>Royer used the Westinghouse 2N74, apparently. >>> >>> >>>Best regards, >>>Spehro Pefhany >> >>Trying to remember... one of those pinch-seal TO-5's? I used to have >>an ancient GE manual, but the silverfish ate it :-( >> >> ...Jim Thompson > >It's before my time, Jim. I don't have anything listed that has fewer >than 3 digits after the '2N'. > >Here's a photo of one: >http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~wylie/2Nseries/2N74.jpg
My! My! I never saw one of those. (But I was only 14 at the time ;-) My first transistors were CK722 and CK760 in 1956, when my father became a Raytheon wholesaler.
> >and the pinout: >http://www.transparentsound.com/transistors/vintage-transistors/Jedec/Transistor_outline_09.gif > >PNP 200mW 50V AF SW, probably alloy type (point contact types were >only 50mW). 2N76 -79 types had hfe of 20-55 and ft of around 1MHz. > > > >Best regards, >Spehro Pefhany
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Reply by Bill Sloman November 8, 20112011-11-08
On Nov 8, 12:56=A0am, Klaus Kragelund <klausk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi > > I am looking for the original paper from 1954 that George Royer did on > his Royer converter circuit: > > "Transistors as on-off switches in saturable-core circuits" in > Electrical Manufactoring > > Anyone know where I can get this?
Jim Williams did. From his AN-55 http://cds.linear.com/docs/Application%20Note/an55fa.pdf Bright, Pittman and Royer, =93Transistors as On-Off Switches in Saturable Core Circuits,=94 Electrical Manufacturing, December 1954. Available from Technomic Publishing, Lancaster, PA. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
Reply by Spehro Pefhany November 7, 20112011-11-07
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:37:42 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 19:10:40 -0500, Spehro Pefhany ><speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: > >>On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:59:51 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson >><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 15:56:24 -0800 (PST), Klaus Kragelund >>><klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Hi >>>> >>>>I am looking for the original paper from 1954 that George Royer did on >>>>his Royer converter circuit: >>>> >>>>"Transistors as on-off switches in saturable-core circuits" in >>>>Electrical Manufactoring >>>> >>>>Anyone know where I can get this? >>>> >>>>Regards >>>> >>>>Klaus >>> >>>1954? There weren't a lot of transistors around in 1954... only >>>Geranium junk, surface-barrier and point contact ;-) >>> >>> ...Jim Thompson >> >>Royer used the Westinghouse 2N74, apparently. >> >> >>Best regards, >>Spehro Pefhany > >Trying to remember... one of those pinch-seal TO-5's? I used to have >an ancient GE manual, but the silverfish ate it :-( > > ...Jim Thompson
It's before my time, Jim. I don't have anything listed that has fewer than 3 digits after the '2N'. Here's a photo of one: http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~wylie/2Nseries/2N74.jpg and the pinout: http://www.transparentsound.com/transistors/vintage-transistors/Jedec/Transistor_outline_09.gif PNP 200mW 50V AF SW, probably alloy type (point contact types were only 50mW). 2N76 -79 types had hfe of 20-55 and ft of around 1MHz. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
Reply by Martin Riddle November 7, 20112011-11-07
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote 
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> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 19:10:40 -0500, Spehro Pefhany > <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: > >>On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:59:51 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson >><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 15:56:24 -0800 (PST), Klaus Kragelund >>><klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Hi >>>> >>>>I am looking for the original paper from 1954 that George Royer did >>>>on >>>>his Royer converter circuit: >>>> >>>>"Transistors as on-off switches in saturable-core circuits" in >>>>Electrical Manufactoring >>>> >>>>Anyone know where I can get this? >>>> >>>>Regards >>>> >>>>Klaus >>> >>>1954? There weren't a lot of transistors around in 1954... only >>>Geranium junk, surface-barrier and point contact ;-) >>> >>> ...Jim Thompson >> >>Royer used the Westinghouse 2N74, apparently. >> >> >>Best regards, >>Spehro Pefhany > > Trying to remember... one of those pinch-seal TO-5's? I used to have > an ancient GE manual, but the silverfish ate it :-( > > ...Jim Thompson
It's listed in the 1958 GE manual I have. Cheers
Reply by VWWall November 7, 20112011-11-07
Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 15:56:24 -0800 (PST), Klaus Kragelund > <klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I am looking for the original paper from 1954 that George Royer did on >> his Royer converter circuit: >> >> "Transistors as on-off switches in saturable-core circuits" in >> Electrical Manufactoring >> >> Anyone know where I can get this? >> >> Regards >> >> Klaus > > 1954? There weren't a lot of transistors around in 1954... only > Geranium junk, surface-barrier and point contact ;-) > > ...Jim Thompson
In 1951-1952, at North American, we built an entire solid-state airborne radar. Only the magnetron was a vacuum tube, and it was pulsed by a magnetic core pulse generator, on which I have a patent. The display did use a standard CRT. Most of the transistors were from Texas Instruments and were used in low power RF and video circuits. -- Virg Wall