"Helmut Wabnig" <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> napisal w wiadomosci
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> On Thu, 19 May 2016 09:40:58 +0100, "szczepan bialek"
> <sz.bialek@wp.pl> wrote:
>
>>>>>
>>>>> But the term "impulsing current" was used by Tesla.
>>>>> Up to now the Tesla name is absent in textbooks about radio.
>>>>> Do You know that Tesla was "Father of radio":
>>>>> http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1929-09-22.htm
>>>>> S*
>>>>
>>>
>>> The father of radio was Heinrich Hertz.
>>> Tesla only copied and patented what others had already published.
>>
>>See at the Fig. 1 and Fig. 2:
>>http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1909/braun-lecture.pdf
>>
>>On the Fig. 1 is the Hertz transmitter.
>>On the Fig. 2 is the Tesla transmitter.
>>Do you see the difference?
>>
>>It is described here: "
>>"At about that time there was a significant problem of interference
>>between
>>signals coming from different sources, due to the increasing number of
>>transmitting stations. Guglielmo Marconi was the first to adopt a tuning
>>system of this type. It's essentially composed of a tesla type high
>>frequency transformer, whose primary circuit is connected to a leyden jar,
>>forming a resonant circuit which reduces the bandwidth of the signal to be
>>transmitted coming from an induction coil. The signal then goes to the
>>central coil (secondary circuit) whose terminals are connected to the
>>transmitting aerial the earth circuit, to be sent into the space. " From:
>>
>>http://www.sparkmuseum.com/SPKTRAN.HTM
>>
>>The radio "It's essentially composed of a tesla type high frequency
>>transformer".
>>
>>For this reason Tesla is "The Father of radio".
>>
>>S*
>>
> Quack.
>
> Coils and resonance circuits were made all over the world
> by different people. Tesla was the first to patent everything.
> Such a text as you cited above is no proof for Tesla's priority.
Tesla had published everything about his discoveries.
The most important is that from 1892 (Marconi was 15 years old):
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1892-12-21.htm
"The apparatus, oscillator and resonator, being immersed in air, or other
discontinuous medium, there occurs-as I have pointed out in the description
of my recent experiments before the English and French scientific
societies-dissipation of energy by what I think might be appropriately
called electric sound waves or sound-waves of electrified air. "
The "Coils and resonance circuits" produce the very high voltage. Such is
necessary to long distance comunication.
Hertz made the "near field comunnication" (proximity card).
Popow and young Marconi were using too low voltage.
Marconi means the factory and the owner of the factory. The Marconi were
using the Tesla patents.
>
> There is a world outside the US, even when Americans don't know about.
> Americans are tought that TESLA invented everything,
> in defense of the US Tesla patents and revenues. Money, in short.
>
> I even doubt that Marconi was the first to use "tuning circuits".
> Too obvious is the pathway, to believe only one person found it.
The electric waves were discovered by Henry in 1841.
They were discovered again in 1871 by E. Thomson and proved by Prof. Houston
in 1975.
The device for extra strong electric waves was invented by Tesla in 1891.
But the Nobel price for electric waves was given to Braun and Marconi.
The long distance comunication was very important for ships. The rest were
using the telegraff and telephone.
So Father of radio is Tesla.
S*
Reply by ●May 19, 20162016-05-19
On Thursday, May 19, 2016 at 12:47:03 AM UTC-7, szczepan bialek wrote:
> Użytkownik <mrdarrett@gmail.com> napisał w wiadomości
> news:f0b65a60-e6bd-4c28-860a-3e1a17332efc@googlegroups.com...
> On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 10:50:26 AM UTC-7, szczepan bialek wrote:
> > <mrdarrett@gmail.com> napisal w wiadomosci
> > news:41831c05-fc32-4e3f-942c-38ec697932a6@googlegroups.com...
> > > It seems to me that flyback SMPSes use pulsed DC instead of AC. Is this
> > > true?
> > >
> > > For example, here, the transistor simply turns on and off, providing
> > > pulses to the transformer, right?
> > >
> > > http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/smpsbd.gif
> > >
> > >
> > > Would SMPSes be more efficient if their transformers were fed
> > > high-frequency AC instead of high-frequency pulsed DC (for example, by
> > > using an H-bridge to provide a negative voltage across the transformer
> > > primary for the second half of each cycle)?
> > >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Types_of_current.svg
> >
> > Your flyback is using the impulsing current.
> >
> > But the term "impulsing current" was used by Tesla.
> > Up to now the Tesla name is absent in textbooks about radio.
> > Do You know that Tesla was "Father of radio":
> > http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1929-09-22.htm
> > S*
>
>
> Wspaniale! Cieszę się :)
>
> Mówisz po Polsku?
>
> <Mowie tylko po polsku.
> <Po angielsku czytam bez trudu ale pisze kiepsko.
> S*
:)
Polish is very difficult also. Basically I have to memorize how every single word is pronounced. Take dziękuję for example. "Jen-Ku-Yeh" is the closest I can get to. Polish co-worker was teaching me some Polish, but I don't travel to the Los Angeles office that often anymore. He also knows Russian.
Trzymaj się :)
Michał
Reply by Helmut Wabnig●May 19, 20162016-05-19
On Thu, 19 May 2016 09:40:58 +0100, "szczepan bialek"
<sz.bialek@wp.pl> wrote:
>
> "Helmut Wabnig" <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> napisal w wiadomosci
>news:0miqjbt1498928t6iq2u06n7urhn3rtki1@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 18 May 2016 13:41:48 -0700 (PDT), mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 10:50:26 AM UTC-7, szczepan bialek wrote:
>>>> <mrdarrett@gmail.com> napisal w wiadomosci
>>>>
>>>> But the term "impulsing current" was used by Tesla.
>>>> Up to now the Tesla name is absent in textbooks about radio.
>>>> Do You know that Tesla was "Father of radio":
>>>> http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1929-09-22.htm
>>>> S*
>>>
>>
>> The father of radio was Heinrich Hertz.
>> Tesla only copied and patented what others had already published.
>
>See at the Fig. 1 and Fig. 2:
>http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1909/braun-lecture.pdf
>
>On the Fig. 1 is the Hertz transmitter.
>On the Fig. 2 is the Tesla transmitter.
>Do you see the difference?
>
>It is described here: "
>"At about that time there was a significant problem of interference between
>signals coming from different sources, due to the increasing number of
>transmitting stations. Guglielmo Marconi was the first to adopt a tuning
>system of this type. It's essentially composed of a tesla type high
>frequency transformer, whose primary circuit is connected to a leyden jar,
>forming a resonant circuit which reduces the bandwidth of the signal to be
>transmitted coming from an induction coil. The signal then goes to the
>central coil (secondary circuit) whose terminals are connected to the
>transmitting aerial the earth circuit, to be sent into the space. " From:
>
>http://www.sparkmuseum.com/SPKTRAN.HTM
>
>The radio "It's essentially composed of a tesla type high frequency
>transformer".
>
>For this reason Tesla is "The Father of radio".
>
>S*
>
>
>
Quack.
Coils and resonance circuits were made all over the world
by different people. Tesla was the first to patent everything.
Such a text as you cited above is no proof for Tesla's priority.
There is a world outside the US, even when Americans don't know about.
Americans are tought that TESLA invented everything,
in defense of the US Tesla patents and revenues. Money, in short.
I even doubt that Marconi was the first to use "tuning circuits".
Too obvious is the pathway, to believe only one person found it.
w.
Reply by szczepan bialek●May 19, 20162016-05-19
U�ytkownik <mrdarrett@gmail.com> napisa� w wiadomo�ci
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On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 10:50:26 AM UTC-7, szczepan bialek wrote:
> <mrdarrett@gmail.com> napisal w wiadomosci
> news:41831c05-fc32-4e3f-942c-38ec697932a6@googlegroups.com...
> > It seems to me that flyback SMPSes use pulsed DC instead of AC. Is this
> > true?
> >
> > For example, here, the transistor simply turns on and off, providing
> > pulses to the transformer, right?
> >
> > http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/smpsbd.gif
> >
> >
> > Would SMPSes be more efficient if their transformers were fed
> > high-frequency AC instead of high-frequency pulsed DC (for example, by
> > using an H-bridge to provide a negative voltage across the transformer
> > primary for the second half of each cycle)?
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Types_of_current.svg
>
> Your flyback is using the impulsing current.
>
> But the term "impulsing current" was used by Tesla.
> Up to now the Tesla name is absent in textbooks about radio.
> Do You know that Tesla was "Father of radio":
> http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1929-09-22.htm
> S*
Wspaniale! Ciesz� si� :)
M�wisz po Polsku?
<Mowie tylko po polsku.
<Po angielsku czytam bez trudu ale pisze kiepsko.
S*
Reply by szczepan bialek●May 19, 20162016-05-19
"Helmut Wabnig" <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> napisal w wiadomosci
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> On Wed, 18 May 2016 13:41:48 -0700 (PDT), mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 10:50:26 AM UTC-7, szczepan bialek wrote:
>>> <mrdarrett@gmail.com> napisal w wiadomosci
>>>
>>> But the term "impulsing current" was used by Tesla.
>>> Up to now the Tesla name is absent in textbooks about radio.
>>> Do You know that Tesla was "Father of radio":
>>> http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1929-09-22.htm
>>> S*
>>
>
> The father of radio was Heinrich Hertz.
> Tesla only copied and patented what others had already published.
See at the Fig. 1 and Fig. 2:
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1909/braun-lecture.pdf
On the Fig. 1 is the Hertz transmitter.
On the Fig. 2 is the Tesla transmitter.
Do you see the difference?
It is described here: "
"At about that time there was a significant problem of interference between
signals coming from different sources, due to the increasing number of
transmitting stations. Guglielmo Marconi was the first to adopt a tuning
system of this type. It's essentially composed of a tesla type high
frequency transformer, whose primary circuit is connected to a leyden jar,
forming a resonant circuit which reduces the bandwidth of the signal to be
transmitted coming from an induction coil. The signal then goes to the
central coil (secondary circuit) whose terminals are connected to the
transmitting aerial the earth circuit, to be sent into the space. " From:
http://www.sparkmuseum.com/SPKTRAN.HTM
The radio "It's essentially composed of a tesla type high frequency
transformer".
For this reason Tesla is "The Father of radio".
S*
Reply by Helmut Wabnig●May 19, 20162016-05-19
On Wed, 18 May 2016 13:41:48 -0700 (PDT), mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 10:50:26 AM UTC-7, szczepan bialek wrote:
>> <mrdarrett@gmail.com> napisal w wiadomosci
>> news:41831c05-fc32-4e3f-942c-38ec697932a6@googlegroups.com...
>> > It seems to me that flyback SMPSes use pulsed DC instead of AC. Is this
>> > true?
>> >
>> > For example, here, the transistor simply turns on and off, providing
>> > pulses to the transformer, right?
>> >
>> > http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/smpsbd.gif
>> >
>> >
>> > Would SMPSes be more efficient if their transformers were fed
>> > high-frequency AC instead of high-frequency pulsed DC (for example, by
>> > using an H-bridge to provide a negative voltage across the transformer
>> > primary for the second half of each cycle)?
>> >
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Types_of_current.svg
>>
>> Your flyback is using the impulsing current.
>>
>> But the term "impulsing current" was used by Tesla.
>> Up to now the Tesla name is absent in textbooks about radio.
>> Do You know that Tesla was "Father of radio":
>> http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1929-09-22.htm
>> S(
>
>
>Wspaniale! Ciesz? si? :)
>
>M�wisz po Polsku?
>
>Micha?
The father of radio was Heinrich Hertz.
Tesla only copied and patented what others had already published.
w.
Reply by ●May 18, 20162016-05-18
On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 10:50:26 AM UTC-7, szczepan bialek wrote:
> <mrdarrett@gmail.com> napisal w wiadomosci
> news:41831c05-fc32-4e3f-942c-38ec697932a6@googlegroups.com...
> > It seems to me that flyback SMPSes use pulsed DC instead of AC. Is this
> > true?
> >
> > For example, here, the transistor simply turns on and off, providing
> > pulses to the transformer, right?
> >
> > http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/smpsbd.gif
> >
> >
> > Would SMPSes be more efficient if their transformers were fed
> > high-frequency AC instead of high-frequency pulsed DC (for example, by
> > using an H-bridge to provide a negative voltage across the transformer
> > primary for the second half of each cycle)?
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Types_of_current.svg
>
> Your flyback is using the impulsing current.
>
> But the term "impulsing current" was used by Tesla.
> Up to now the Tesla name is absent in textbooks about radio.
> Do You know that Tesla was "Father of radio":
> http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1929-09-22.htm
> S(
Wspaniale! Cieszę się :)
Mówisz po Polsku?
Michał
Reply by szczepan bialek●May 18, 20162016-05-18
"repurplecirculation" <dave@beefydog.com> napisa� w wiadomo�ci
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> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 4:05:16 PM UTC-4, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 12:23:29 -0700 (PDT), mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >It seems to me that flyback SMPSes use pulsed DC instead of AC. Is this
>> >true?
>> >
>> >For example, here, the transistor simply turns on and off, providing
>> >pulses to the transformer, right?
>> >
>> >http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/smpsbd.gif
>> >
>> >
>> >Would SMPSes be more efficient if their transformers were fed
>> >high-frequency AC instead of high-frequency pulsed DC (for example, by
>> >using an H-bridge to provide a negative voltage across the transformer
>> >primary for the second half of each cycle)?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Michael
>>
>> High Frequency chopped DC is equal to High Frequency AC.
>>
>> I.T. I.S. A.C.
>>
>> w.
>
> I disagree. AC REVERSES polarity (hence the "Alternating" in Alternating
> Current). Pulsed DC does not.
Sometimes names are not precise.
The High Frequency AC in the radio mast is not symetric AC. So it is
practically the Pulsed DC.
S*
Reply by repurplecirculation●May 17, 20162016-05-17
On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 4:05:16 PM UTC-4, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 12:23:29 -0700 (PDT), mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >It seems to me that flyback SMPSes use pulsed DC instead of AC. Is this true?
> >
> >For example, here, the transistor simply turns on and off, providing pulses to the transformer, right?
> >
> >http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/smpsbd.gif
> >
> >
> >Would SMPSes be more efficient if their transformers were fed high-frequency AC instead of high-frequency pulsed DC (for example, by using an H-bridge to provide a negative voltage across the transformer primary for the second half of each cycle)?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Michael
>
> High Frequency chopped DC is equal to High Frequency AC.
>
> I.T. I.S. A.C.
>
> w.
I disagree. AC REVERSES polarity (hence the "Alternating" in Alternating Current). Pulsed DC does not.
Reply by szczepan bialek●March 18, 20162016-03-18
<mrdarrett@gmail.com> napisal w wiadomosci
news:41831c05-fc32-4e3f-942c-38ec697932a6@googlegroups.com...
> It seems to me that flyback SMPSes use pulsed DC instead of AC. Is this
> true?
>
> For example, here, the transistor simply turns on and off, providing
> pulses to the transformer, right?
>
> http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/smpsbd.gif
>
>
> Would SMPSes be more efficient if their transformers were fed
> high-frequency AC instead of high-frequency pulsed DC (for example, by
> using an H-bridge to provide a negative voltage across the transformer
> primary for the second half of each cycle)?
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Types_of_current.svg
Your flyback is using the impulsing current.
But the term "impulsing current" was used by Tesla.
Up to now the Tesla name is absent in textbooks about radio.
Do You know that Tesla was "Father of radio":
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1929-09-22.htm
S(