Reply by DaveC March 6, 20102010-03-06
> There is a fundamental difference between the two traffic receivers > which support the Nuvi 660: GTM-20 - US-only with no external aerial - > and the cognate GTM-21 - Europe only, with plug-in wire aerial. Living > in the UK...
In the USA there are 2 versions of the GTM20. One has a continuous cable between the traffic receiver / power plug, and the GPS connector. The latest version of the GTM20 has a bulge in the cable near the GPS connector which also includes a small hole that accepts an external antenna (FM I presume, not GPS, although the instructions don't say explicitly). It's a 3.5 mm jack I think.
Reply by Son of a Sea Cook February 28, 20102010-02-28
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:26:57 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > Here is a list, in alphabetical order.
The numeric would be at the front of the list, idiot. You cannot even get something so simple as alphabetization right! Bwuahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha!
Reply by Bart! February 28, 20102010-02-28
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:26:57 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > > Here is a list, in alphabetical order.
That is not what he listed, dumbfucktard. His list was supposedly those I used last month. The problem is that he is almost as full of shit as you are, if that is even possible.
Reply by Michael A. Terrell February 28, 20102010-02-28
Rich Webb wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:35:07 -0500, Steve Stone <n2ubp@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > >Bart! wrote: > >> > >> What is so goddamned difficult about simply buying a GPS antenna, which > >> BTW, you retarded, overtly cross-posting twit, makes the device properly > >> accurate? > > > >Bart, you old fart..... > > > >This is not a GPS frequency. > >Traffic data is piggy backed on broadcast band FM frequencies. > >An external GPS antenna won't do squat to fix this issue. > > > >You need more fiber in your diet. > >Have a nice day! > > You must be new here. This month the kill-file log shows that he is > using the following aliases, sorted by number of entries. Better to just > ignore him. Don't feed the trolls and all that... > > 1: CellShocked <cellshocked@thecellvalueattheendofthespreadsheet.org> > 1: VioletaPachydermata > <PurpleElephant@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> > 2: Abbey Somebody <abnormal@castlefrankenstein.org> > 2: SoothSayer <SaySooth@TheMonastery.org> > 2: TralfamadoranJetPilot > <BillyPilgrim@thebigbarattheendoftheuniverse.org> > 3: "MassiveProng@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org" > <MassiveProng@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> > 4: Bungalow Bill <BugalowBill@AbbeyRoad.UKCOM> > 4: Pieyed Piper <pieyedPiper@thebongshopattheendoftheuniverse.org> > 6: UltimatePatriot <UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> > 8: Lil Red Riding In The Hood > <lilredridinginthehood@grandmashouseattheendoftheuniverse.org> > 8: TheJoker > <LeonardooftheLarcenousLaugh@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> > 11: Son of a Sea Cook <NotaBrewster@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> > 15: Mycelium <mycelium@thematrixattheendofthemushroomstem.org> > 17: AwlSome Auger <AwlSomeAuger@BuyOneGetOneFree.org> > 17: Bart! <B@rt_The_Sheriff_Is_A_Nig***!.org> > 21: "Herbert John \"Jackie\" Gleason" > <BufordTJustice@Texarkanacops.gov> > 21: Capt. Cave Man <ItIsSoEasyACaveManCanDoIt@upyers.org> > 25: StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt <Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> > 34: Archimedes' Lever <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> > 40: FatBytestard <FatBytestard@somewheronyourharddrive.org> > 413: life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org>
Here is a list, in alphabetical order. THE DIMBULB SCORECARD Abbey Somebody <abnormal@castlefrankenstein.org> AnimalMagic <AnimalMagic@petersbackyard.org> Archimedes' Lever <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> AtTheEndofMyRope <AtTheEndofMyRope@AtTheEndofMyRope.org> AwlSome Auger <AwlSomeAuger@BuyOneGetOneFree.org> Bart! <B@rt_The_Sheriff_Is_A_Nig**!.org> BigBalls <BiggestBallsOfAll@thebigbarattheendoftheuniverse.org> BillyPilgrim <BillyPilgrim@thebigbarattheendoftheuniverse.org> Bungalow Bill <BugalowBill@AbbeyRoad.UKCOM> Capt. Cave Man <ItIsSoEasyACaveManCanDoIt@upyers.org> CellShocked <cellshocked@thecellvalueattheendofthespreadsheet.org> ChairmanOfTheBored <RUBored@crackasmile.org> Chieftain of the Carpet Crawlers <theslipperman@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> Corbomite Carrie <Corbomite@maneuver.org> DarkMatter <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> DarkSucker <DarkSucker@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> Do I really need to say? <rael@thescree.org> Dorothy with the Red Shoes on <Dorothy@notinkansas.org> Dr. Heywood R. Floyd <Heywood@thebarattheendofthemonolith.org> FatBytestard <FatBytestard@somewheronyourharddrive.org> FunkyPunk FieldEffectTrollsistor <FunkShunPoignter@yermomma.org> FunkyPunk FieldEffectTrollsistor <FunkShunPointer@yermomma.org> George Orr <GergoOrr@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> GoldIntermetallicEmbrittlement <GoldIntermetallicEmbrittlement@youdontknowjack.org> Hattori Hanzo <OutintheSnow@billsbackyard.org> Herbert John \Jackie\" Gleason" <BufordTJustice@Texarkanacops.gov> HiggsField <higgdfield@whutthableapduyoukno.org> IAmTheSlime <TheSlimeFromYourVideo@oozingacrossyourlivingroomfloor.org> ItsASecretDummy <secretasianman@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> Jupiter Jaq <JupiterJaq@BuyOneGetOneFree.org> Kai <kai@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> LargeMarge <LargeMarge@thetentwoposition.org> life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> Lil Red Riding In The Hood <lilredridinginthehood@grandmashouseattheendoftheuniverse.org> lurch <lurch@yourangcousinitslibrary.org> MadManMoon <TheWholePlanetIsMine@hereandnow.org> MakeNoAttemptToAdjustYourSet <DoNotAttemptToAdjustYourSet@anytime.org> MassiveProng@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org <MassiveProng@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> MeowSayTongue <MeowSayTongue@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> Mr.Eko <ekointhedirt@lostisland.org> Mr. Haney <mrhaney@thebarattheendofthefarmroad.org> Mycelium <myceliumgrows@underyourshrooms.org> Mycelium <mycelium@thematrixattheendofthemushroomstem.org> Neanderthal <dance@gottafindawomanrighton.org> OutsideObserver <Stand And Deliver@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> Pieyed Piper <pieyedPiper@thebongshopattheendoftheuniverse.org> Phat Bytestard <PhatBytestard@getinmahharddrive.org> RoyLFuchs <RoyLFuchs@urfargingicehole.org> scorpius <scorpius@thewormholethatemptiesontheothersideoftheuniverse.org> SkyPilot <somewhere@theedgeofspace.org> SomeKindOfWonderful <SomeKindOfWonderful@allthegirlsintheworldbeware.org> Son of a Sea Cook <NotaBrewster@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> SoothSayer <SaySooth@TheMonastery.org> Spurious Response <SpuriousResponse@cleansignal.org> StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt <Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> Sum Ting Wong <SumTingWong@thebarattheendoftheVenusianLightnigBolt.org> Sum Ting Wong <SumTingWong@thebarattheendoftheVenusianLightnigBoltmonolith.org> SuspendedInGaffa <suspendedingaffa@kateshouse.org> The Great Attractor <SuperM@ssiveBlackHoleAtTheCenterOfTheMilkyWayGalaxy.org> TheGlimmerMan <justaglimmer@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> TheJoker <LeonardooftheLarcenousLaugh@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> The Keeper of the Key to The Locks <TheLoner@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> TheKraken <ReachUpandSuckYouDowntotheDepths@yup.org> The Last Mimsy <mimsy@TheOtherSideoftheLookingGlass.org> TheQuickBrownFox <thequickbrownfox@overthelazydog.org> The Loner <TheLoner@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> TralfamadoranJetPilot <BillyPilgrim@thebigbarattheendoftheuniverse.org> TutAmongUs@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org <TutAmongUs@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> UltimatePatriot <UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> UpGrade <UpGrade@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> UpYerNose <UpYerNose@witarubbahose.org> ValleyGirl <LuvYerNailz@LikeIWouldGiveIt.Comeon> VioletaPachydermata <PurpleElephant@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> WallyWallWhackr <wallywallwhackr@thematrixattheendofthemushroomstem.org> 100WattDarkSucker <100WattDarkSucker@thebigbarattheendoftheuniverse.org> -- Greed is the root of all eBay.
Reply by IAmTheSlime February 28, 20102010-02-28
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:19:58 -0500, Rich Webb
<bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:35:07 -0500, Steve Stone <n2ubp@hotmail.com> >wrote: > >>Bart! wrote: >>> >>> What is so goddamned difficult about simply buying a GPS antenna, which >>> BTW, you retarded, overtly cross-posting twit, makes the device properly >>> accurate? >> >>Bart, you old fart..... >> >>This is not a GPS frequency. >>Traffic data is piggy backed on broadcast band FM frequencies. >>An external GPS antenna won't do squat to fix this issue. >> >>You need more fiber in your diet. >>Have a nice day! > >You must be new here. This month the kill-file log shows that he is >using the following aliases, sorted by number of entries. Better to just >ignore him. Don't feed the trolls and all that... > > > 1: CellShocked <cellshocked@thecellvalueattheendofthespreadsheet.org> > 1: VioletaPachydermata ><PurpleElephant@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> > 2: Abbey Somebody <abnormal@castlefrankenstein.org> > 2: SoothSayer <SaySooth@TheMonastery.org> > 2: TralfamadoranJetPilot ><BillyPilgrim@thebigbarattheendoftheuniverse.org> > 3: "MassiveProng@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org" ><MassiveProng@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> > 4: Bungalow Bill <BugalowBill@AbbeyRoad.UKCOM> > 4: Pieyed Piper <pieyedPiper@thebongshopattheendoftheuniverse.org> > 6: UltimatePatriot <UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> > 8: Lil Red Riding In The Hood ><lilredridinginthehood@grandmashouseattheendoftheuniverse.org> > 8: TheJoker ><LeonardooftheLarcenousLaugh@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> > 11: Son of a Sea Cook <NotaBrewster@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> > 15: Mycelium <mycelium@thematrixattheendofthemushroomstem.org> > 17: AwlSome Auger <AwlSomeAuger@BuyOneGetOneFree.org> > 17: Bart! <B@rt_The_Sheriff_Is_A_Nig***!.org> > 21: "Herbert John \"Jackie\" Gleason" ><BufordTJustice@Texarkanacops.gov> > 21: Capt. Cave Man <ItIsSoEasyACaveManCanDoIt@upyers.org> > 25: StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt <Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> > 34: Archimedes' Lever <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> > 40: FatBytestard <FatBytestard@somewheronyourharddrive.org> > 413: life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org>
You're a goddamned liar, boy. I haven't used half of those, so your precious filter must be catching others' responses as well. You really are about as retarded as it gets, bub.
Reply by Rich Webb February 28, 20102010-02-28
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:35:07 -0500, Steve Stone <n2ubp@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Bart! wrote: >> >> What is so goddamned difficult about simply buying a GPS antenna, which >> BTW, you retarded, overtly cross-posting twit, makes the device properly >> accurate? > >Bart, you old fart..... > >This is not a GPS frequency. >Traffic data is piggy backed on broadcast band FM frequencies. >An external GPS antenna won't do squat to fix this issue. > >You need more fiber in your diet. >Have a nice day!
You must be new here. This month the kill-file log shows that he is using the following aliases, sorted by number of entries. Better to just ignore him. Don't feed the trolls and all that... 1: CellShocked <cellshocked@thecellvalueattheendofthespreadsheet.org> 1: VioletaPachydermata <PurpleElephant@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> 2: Abbey Somebody <abnormal@castlefrankenstein.org> 2: SoothSayer <SaySooth@TheMonastery.org> 2: TralfamadoranJetPilot <BillyPilgrim@thebigbarattheendoftheuniverse.org> 3: "MassiveProng@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org" <MassiveProng@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> 4: Bungalow Bill <BugalowBill@AbbeyRoad.UKCOM> 4: Pieyed Piper <pieyedPiper@thebongshopattheendoftheuniverse.org> 6: UltimatePatriot <UltimatePatriot@thebestcountry.org> 8: Lil Red Riding In The Hood <lilredridinginthehood@grandmashouseattheendoftheuniverse.org> 8: TheJoker <LeonardooftheLarcenousLaugh@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> 11: Son of a Sea Cook <NotaBrewster@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> 15: Mycelium <mycelium@thematrixattheendofthemushroomstem.org> 17: AwlSome Auger <AwlSomeAuger@BuyOneGetOneFree.org> 17: Bart! <B@rt_The_Sheriff_Is_A_Nig***!.org> 21: "Herbert John \"Jackie\" Gleason" <BufordTJustice@Texarkanacops.gov> 21: Capt. Cave Man <ItIsSoEasyACaveManCanDoIt@upyers.org> 25: StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt <Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> 34: Archimedes' Lever <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> 40: FatBytestard <FatBytestard@somewheronyourharddrive.org> 413: life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> -- Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
Reply by JDG February 28, 20102010-02-28
On Feb 28, 6:28=A0pm, Bart! <B@rt_The_Sheriff_Is_A_Nig***!.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:46:09 -0500, Steve Stone <n2...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > > >Bart! wrote: > > >> =A0 Then, the device should have a separate antenna port. > > >It should but it does not. > >It plugs into the USB port on the back of the GPS. > >The USB port is used to data signal and power to recharge the built in > >battery. > > >the cable is wired like this > > >12 VDC power plug, > > >A couple of inches of DC power cord to an approx. 2 inch oblong FM recei=
ver
> > > From the FM receiver 2 cables go to the GPS USB port, one is data/power=
,
> >the other is used as a broadcast band FM antenna , hanging inside your c=
ar.
> > >Hacking the assembly would require cracking open the sealed FM receiver > >without damaging the device, figuring out where the antenna wire input > >is located, and soldering in an antenna input jack and an A/B switch , > >sealing up the unit (voiding any warranty). > > >Do you suggest I put the device in my shop vice, > >apply pressure till it cracks open or turns to shrapnel, or dig out the > >dremel tool? > > >I prefer inductive coupling to hacking a device still under warranty. > > >Steve > >73 de N2UBP > > =A0 I prefer contacting the manufacturer to guesswork.
If you'd followed the thread you would know that the manufacturer has been singularly unhelpful/useless - thus the need to draw on the collective wisdom of the group. Look and think before you jump in, and try to contirubute courteously.
Reply by Bart! February 28, 20102010-02-28
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:46:09 -0500, Steve Stone <n2ubp@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Bart! wrote: > >> >> Then, the device should have a separate antenna port. > >It should but it does not. >It plugs into the USB port on the back of the GPS. >The USB port is used to data signal and power to recharge the built in >battery. > >the cable is wired like this > >12 VDC power plug, > >A couple of inches of DC power cord to an approx. 2 inch oblong FM receiver > > From the FM receiver 2 cables go to the GPS USB port, one is data/power, >the other is used as a broadcast band FM antenna , hanging inside your car. > >Hacking the assembly would require cracking open the sealed FM receiver >without damaging the device, figuring out where the antenna wire input >is located, and soldering in an antenna input jack and an A/B switch , >sealing up the unit (voiding any warranty). > >Do you suggest I put the device in my shop vice, >apply pressure till it cracks open or turns to shrapnel, or dig out the >dremel tool? > >I prefer inductive coupling to hacking a device still under warranty. > >Steve >73 de N2UBP >
I prefer contacting the manufacturer to guesswork.
Reply by Steve Stone February 28, 20102010-02-28
Bart! wrote:

> > Then, the device should have a separate antenna port.
It should but it does not. It plugs into the USB port on the back of the GPS. The USB port is used to data signal and power to recharge the built in battery. the cable is wired like this 12 VDC power plug, A couple of inches of DC power cord to an approx. 2 inch oblong FM receiver From the FM receiver 2 cables go to the GPS USB port, one is data/power, the other is used as a broadcast band FM antenna , hanging inside your car. Hacking the assembly would require cracking open the sealed FM receiver without damaging the device, figuring out where the antenna wire input is located, and soldering in an antenna input jack and an A/B switch , sealing up the unit (voiding any warranty). Do you suggest I put the device in my shop vice, apply pressure till it cracks open or turns to shrapnel, or dig out the dremel tool? I prefer inductive coupling to hacking a device still under warranty. Steve 73 de N2UBP
Reply by Steve Stone February 28, 20102010-02-28
Bart! wrote:
> > What is so goddamned difficult about simply buying a GPS antenna, which > BTW, you retarded, overtly cross-posting twit, makes the device properly > accurate?
Bart, you old fart..... This is not a GPS frequency. Traffic data is piggy backed on broadcast band FM frequencies. An external GPS antenna won't do squat to fix this issue. You need more fiber in your diet. Have a nice day!