Guess what I just had to re-boot...

Wife just now comes into my office and says the dishwasher (ASKO)
won't run.

I check it out, buttons are lit, but no response.

So I go to the breaker box, turn it off, turn it back on... Voila!  It
becomes responsive ;-)

So much for _reliable_ uC functions :-(
		
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"Jim Thompson" <T...@My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> 
wrote in message news:a...@4ax.com...
> Guess what I just had to re-boot...
>
> Wife just now comes into my office and says the dishwasher (ASKO)
> won't run.
>
> I check it out, buttons are lit, but no response.
>
> So I go to the breaker box, turn it off, turn it back on... Voila!  It
> becomes responsive ;-)
>
> So much for _reliable_ uC functions :-(
>
>                                        ...Jim Thompson
> -- 

Had the same problem with a dehumidifier, would lock up during thunder 
storms.
Some well place decoupling caps , on the Zilog part they used, solved 
the problem.

Must have been a college project.

Cheers
 

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:58:49 -0700, Jim Thompson
<T...@My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> wrote:

>Guess what I just had to re-boot...
>
>Wife just now comes into my office and says the dishwasher (ASKO)
>won't run.

At least you can't blame that one on Windows.  ...I don't think. :-(

>I check it out, buttons are lit, but no response.
>
>So I go to the breaker box, turn it off, turn it back on... Voila!  It
>becomes responsive ;-)

Maybe that's why our dishwasher has a wall switch.  ;-)  

>So much for _reliable_ uC functions :-(

Did you ever doubt it?		

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:49:26 -0600, krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:58:49 -0700, Jim Thompson
><T...@My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> wrote:
>
>>Guess what I just had to re-boot...
>>
>>Wife just now comes into my office and says the dishwasher (ASKO)
>>won't run.
>
>At least you can't blame that one on Windows.  ...I don't think. :-(
>
>>I check it out, buttons are lit, but no response.
>>
>>So I go to the breaker box, turn it off, turn it back on... Voila!  It
>>becomes responsive ;-)
>
>Maybe that's why our dishwasher has a wall switch.  ;-)  
>
>>So much for _reliable_ uC functions :-(
>
>Did you ever doubt it?		

In nearly 50 years of marriage (March 31), this is the first time I've
had to reboot a _dishwasher_ :-(
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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Jim Thompson wrote:
> Guess what I just had to re-boot...
> 
> Wife just now comes into my office and says the dishwasher (ASKO)
> won't run.
> 
> I check it out, buttons are lit, but no response.
> 
> So I go to the breaker box, turn it off, turn it back on... Voila!  It
> becomes responsive ;-)
> 
> So much for _reliable_ uC functions :-(
> 		

This is exactly why I asked the appliance shop guy for a dishwasher with 
real "ka-clonk" buttons and no electronics behind them. "What, you 
really want ..." ... "Yes."

I had to reboot our DTV converter boxes at times. When you see register 
settings in hex show up on the screen it's that time again.

-- 
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:49:26 -0600, krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:58:49 -0700, Jim Thompson
>> <T...@My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> wrote:
>>
>>> Guess what I just had to re-boot...
>>>
>>> Wife just now comes into my office and says the dishwasher (ASKO)
>>> won't run.
>> At least you can't blame that one on Windows.  ...I don't think. :-(
>>
>>> I check it out, buttons are lit, but no response.
>>>
>>> So I go to the breaker box, turn it off, turn it back on... Voila!  It
>>> becomes responsive ;-)
>> Maybe that's why our dishwasher has a wall switch.  ;-)  
>>
>>> So much for _reliable_ uC functions :-(
>> Did you ever doubt it?		
> 
> In nearly 50 years of marriage (March 31), this is the first time I've
> had to reboot a _dishwasher_ :-(
> 		
>                                         ...Jim Thompson

Be glad you didn't buy LG dishwasher. I have had to reboot mine and as 
well, immediately under warranty LG replaced the controller board (which 
I kept as spare as it wasn't the problem), the level switches, the vent 
assembly, the heater (poor appliance repairman switched on power with 
water off), the pump motor, should I go on?. It works now but still 
condenses a ton of water onto the floor during the drying cycle.

All of this energy efficient design is not what it is cracked up to be 
when comparing to 25 year old GE technology that actually worked up 
until the day the wife decided "it was old and clunky".



-- 
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo  ;-P

Martin Riddle wrote:
> "Jim Thompson" <T...@My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> 
> wrote in message news:a...@4ax.com...
>> Guess what I just had to re-boot...
>>
>> Wife just now comes into my office and says the dishwasher (ASKO)
>> won't run.
>>
>> I check it out, buttons are lit, but no response.
>>
>> So I go to the breaker box, turn it off, turn it back on... Voila!  It
>> becomes responsive ;-)
>>
>> So much for _reliable_ uC functions :-(
>>
>>                                        ...Jim Thompson
>> -- 
> 
> Had the same problem with a dehumidifier, would lock up during thunder 
> storms.
> Some well place decoupling caps , on the Zilog part they used, solved 
> the problem.
> 
> Must have been a college project.
> 
> Cheers
>  
> 
> 


I used to make a decent living fixing micro-controller designs that 
other folks screwed up. Principally vending machines used in industrial 
environments with little or no decoupling and interrupt routines that 
vectored off into hyperspace if 'impossible' conditions occurred.


Seems they still have not learned.

Cheers

Ian

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:37:01 -0700, Jim Thompson
<T...@My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:49:26 -0600, krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:58:49 -0700, Jim Thompson
>><T...@My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> wrote:
>>
>>>Guess what I just had to re-boot...
>>>
>>>Wife just now comes into my office and says the dishwasher (ASKO)
>>>won't run.
>>
>>At least you can't blame that one on Windows.  ...I don't think. :-(
>>
>>>I check it out, buttons are lit, but no response.
>>>
>>>So I go to the breaker box, turn it off, turn it back on... Voila!  It
>>>becomes responsive ;-)
>>
>>Maybe that's why our dishwasher has a wall switch.  ;-)  
>>
>>>So much for _reliable_ uC functions :-(
>>
>>Did you ever doubt it?		
>
>In nearly 50 years of marriage (March 31), this is the first time I've
>had to reboot a _dishwasher_ :-(

In 50 years, I'm sure it's not the first time SWMBO had to apply the
boot the "dishwasher", though.  ;-)

Dishwashers don't scare me as much as refrigerators.  Everything but
the cheapest crap is processor controlled, these days.

Ian Bell wrote:
> Martin Riddle wrote:
>> "Jim Thompson" 
>> <T...@My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> wrote in 
>> message news:a...@4ax.com...
>>> Guess what I just had to re-boot...
>>>
>>> Wife just now comes into my office and says the dishwasher (ASKO)
>>> won't run.
>>>
>>> I check it out, buttons are lit, but no response.
>>>
>>> So I go to the breaker box, turn it off, turn it back on... Voila!  It
>>> becomes responsive ;-)
>>>
>>> So much for _reliable_ uC functions :-(
>>>
>>>                                        ...Jim Thompson
>>> -- 
>>
>> Had the same problem with a dehumidifier, would lock up during thunder 
>> storms.
>> Some well place decoupling caps , on the Zilog part they used, solved 
>> the problem.
>>
>> Must have been a college project.
>>
>> Cheers
>>  
>>
>>
> 
> 
> I used to make a decent living fixing micro-controller designs that 
> other folks screwed up. Principally vending machines used in industrial 
> environments with little or no decoupling and interrupt routines that 
> vectored off into hyperspace if 'impossible' conditions occurred.
> 
> 
> Seems they still have not learned.
> 

Shhht! Don't spill the beans. I still make (part of) my living doing that.

The topper was a pellet stove with the proof-of-flame sensor in the 
wrong place so the 8051 on there wouldn't even get the info in time. And 
here I am, a guy with an EE degree, who has to find that out ...

-- 
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:20:22 -0800, Joerg <i...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>Ian Bell wrote:
>> Martin Riddle wrote:
>>> "Jim Thompson" 
>>> <T...@My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> wrote in 
>>> message news:a...@4ax.com...
>>>> Guess what I just had to re-boot...
>>>>
>>>> Wife just now comes into my office and says the dishwasher (ASKO)
>>>> won't run.
>>>>
>>>> I check it out, buttons are lit, but no response.
>>>>
>>>> So I go to the breaker box, turn it off, turn it back on... Voila!  It
>>>> becomes responsive ;-)
>>>>
>>>> So much for _reliable_ uC functions :-(
>>>>
>>>>                                        ...Jim Thompson
>>>> -- 
>>>
>>> Had the same problem with a dehumidifier, would lock up during thunder 
>>> storms.
>>> Some well place decoupling caps , on the Zilog part they used, solved 
>>> the problem.
>>>
>>> Must have been a college project.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> I used to make a decent living fixing micro-controller designs that 
>> other folks screwed up. Principally vending machines used in industrial 
>> environments with little or no decoupling and interrupt routines that 
>> vectored off into hyperspace if 'impossible' conditions occurred.
>> 
>> 
>> Seems they still have not learned.
>> 
>
>Shhht! Don't spill the beans. I still make (part of) my living doing that.
>
>The topper was a pellet stove with the proof-of-flame sensor in the 
>wrong place so the 8051 on there wouldn't even get the info in time. And 
>here I am, a guy with an EE degree, who has to find that out ...

I won a court case demonstrating that a proof-of-flame sensor could
fail due to asynchronous line noise spikes... and fill a Chicago
school house up with natural gas (fortunately on a weekend ;-)
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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