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Remoteing HD TV from Satellite Box - RFI-EMI-GUY - 2009-12-20 14:26:00

I have a Dish Network box installed in my living room along with my 46" 
Sony Bravo LCD panel. My wife would like to mount a smaller LCD panel in 
the dining room slaved from the other setup. I have a free HDMI output 
from the satellite box because I am using component video for the Sony 
TV which has only one HDMI input (taken by a BlueRay player). So my 
first option is to use the available HDMI, or secondly to split off the 
component video (somehow).

Now the problem: I need to bring this output to a TV located 25 feet 
away, possibly needing 75 to 100 foot cable run (to hide it). I want to 
use either 75 ohm cable or cat 5.

Are there any inexpensive media converters available to do this?

Also, we could also use a new TV in the bedroom, so a solution that 
feeds multiple TV's would be nice if not too expensive.

-- 
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo  ;-P



Re: Remoteing HD TV from Satellite Box - AZ Nomad - 2009-12-20 14:33:00

On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:26:58 -0500, RFI-EMI-GUY <R...@NETTALLY.COM> wrote:
>I have a Dish Network box installed in my living room along with my 46" 
>Sony Bravo LCD panel. My wife would like to mount a smaller LCD panel in 
>the dining room slaved from the other setup. I have a free HDMI output 
>from the satellite box because I am using component video for the Sony 
>TV which has only one HDMI input (taken by a BlueRay player). So my 
>first option is to use the available HDMI, or secondly to split off the 
>component video (somehow).

>Now the problem: I need to bring this output to a TV located 25 feet 
>away, possibly needing 75 to 100 foot cable run (to hide it). I want to 
>use either 75 ohm cable or cat 5.

>Are there any inexpensive media converters available to do this?

>Also, we could also use a new TV in the bedroom, so a solution that 
>feeds multiple TV's would be nice if not too expensive.

You can easily split the rca component output.  for 25', the signal degradation
should be tolerable.

It is also possible to run a long run of hdmi and to run it over
cat 5.  Google for "hdmi extender"


Re: Remoteing HD TV from Satellite Box - Jan Panteltje - 2009-12-20 15:11:00

On a sunny day (Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:26:58 -0500) it happened RFI-EMI-GUY
<R...@NETTALLY.COM> wrote in
<4b2e7a7d$0$5120$9...@unlimited.newshosting.com>:

>I have a Dish Network box installed in my living room along with my 46" 
>Sony Bravo LCD panel. My wife would like to mount a smaller LCD panel in 
>the dining room slaved from the other setup. I have a free HDMI output 
>from the satellite box because I am using component video for the Sony 
>TV which has only one HDMI input (taken by a BlueRay player). So my 
>first option is to use the available HDMI, or secondly to split off the 
>component video (somehow).
>
>Now the problem: I need to bring this output to a TV located 25 feet 
>away, possibly needing 75 to 100 foot cable run (to hide it). I want to 
>use either 75 ohm cable or cat 5.
>
>Are there any inexpensive media converters available to do this?
>
>Also, we could also use a new TV in the bedroom, so a solution that 
>feeds multiple TV's would be nice if not too expensive.

In theory, yes, in theory, the whole setup is wrong.
If the settop box has ethernet output, then the setup, for best efficiency, is likely this:
Settop box receiver ->  ethernet - wireless access point WiFi.

All other TVs on an other wireless box connected with ethernet to one of those mediaplayer boxes.
Or maybe each TV connected to something like this:
 http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=438

No cables between rooms.

With cables maybe this:
 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX25664(ME).aspx

If your Dish Network box has no ethernet output you are out of luck.

Re: Remoteing HD TV from Satellite Box - Jim Thompson - 2009-12-20 15:14:00

On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:26:58 -0500, RFI-EMI-GUY
<R...@NETTALLY.COM> wrote:

>I have a Dish Network box installed in my living room along with my 46" 
>Sony Bravo LCD panel. My wife would like to mount a smaller LCD panel in 
>the dining room slaved from the other setup. I have a free HDMI output 
>from the satellite box because I am using component video for the Sony 
>TV which has only one HDMI input (taken by a BlueRay player). So my 
>first option is to use the available HDMI, or secondly to split off the 
>component video (somehow).
>
>Now the problem: I need to bring this output to a TV located 25 feet 
>away, possibly needing 75 to 100 foot cable run (to hide it). I want to 
>use either 75 ohm cable or cat 5.
>
>Are there any inexpensive media converters available to do this?
>
>Also, we could also use a new TV in the bedroom, so a solution that 
>feeds multiple TV's would be nice if not too expensive.

I use this...

http://www.plasma.com/selectors/ph61153.htm

What I like about it is that is has automatic "priority" switching...
cable box on, that's routed to the video outputs; turn on DVD player,
it's routed to video outputs... one remote does all.

Besides several video formats, it also has a built-in modulator, so I
use the existing RG-6 to pipe great room content to all other sets in
the house... each can choose cable as a source or tune to channel 4
and watch what's playing on the great room DVD player.

(I notch out channel 4 on the incoming feed, and insert my own channel
4 into an input on my ChannelPlus distribution amplifier.)
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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Re: Remoteing HD TV from Satellite Box - Son of a Sea Cook - 2009-12-20 15:58:00

On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:26:58 -0500, RFI-EMI-GUY <R...@NETTALLY.COM>
wrote:

>I have a Dish Network box installed in my living room along with my 46" 
>Sony Bravo LCD panel. My wife would like to mount a smaller LCD panel in 
>the dining room slaved from the other setup. I have a free HDMI output 
>from the satellite box because I am using component video for the Sony 
>TV which has only one HDMI input (taken by a BlueRay player). So my 
>first option is to use the available HDMI, or secondly to split off the 
>component video (somehow).
>
>Now the problem: I need to bring this output to a TV located 25 feet 
>away, possibly needing 75 to 100 foot cable run (to hide it). I want to 
>use either 75 ohm cable or cat 5.
>
>Are there any inexpensive media converters available to do this?
>
>Also, we could also use a new TV in the bedroom, so a solution that 
>feeds multiple TV's would be nice if not too expensive.

  Your budget needs to be near $1000 for such a device.  If you are
against such an expenditure and think that some cheap Rat Shack POS box
can do it, you are in the dark.

  First off, such a device needs to break the HDCP compliance rules to
even exist.

Re: Remoteing HD TV from Satellite Box - Son of a Sea Cook - 2009-12-20 16:02:00

On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:14:47 -0700, Jim Thompson
<T...@My-Web-Site.com/Snicker> wrote:

>Besides several video formats, it also has a built-in modulator, so I
>use the existing RG-6 to pipe great room content to all other sets in
>the house... each can choose cable as a source or tune to channel 4
>and watch what's playing on the great room DVD player.
>
>(I notch out channel 4 on the incoming feed, and insert my own channel
>4 into an input on my ChannelPlus distribution amplifier.)


  NTSC standard def over coax sucks.

  Note where he stated that he wants to move HD signals.

  You do not do that over an analog RF TV channel repeater link, idiot.

Re: Remoteing HD TV from Satellite Box - RFI-EMI-GUY - 2009-12-21 22:25:00

Son of a Sea Cook wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:26:58 -0500, RFI-EMI-GUY <R...@NETTALLY.COM>
> wrote:
> 
>> I have a Dish Network box installed in my living room along with my 46" 
>> Sony Bravo LCD panel. My wife would like to mount a smaller LCD panel in 
>> the dining room slaved from the other setup. I have a free HDMI output 
>>from the satellite box because I am using component video for the Sony 
>> TV which has only one HDMI input (taken by a BlueRay player). So my 
>> first option is to use the available HDMI, or secondly to split off the 
>> component video (somehow).
>>
>> Now the problem: I need to bring this output to a TV located 25 feet 
>> away, possibly needing 75 to 100 foot cable run (to hide it). I want to 
>> use either 75 ohm cable or cat 5.
>>
>> Are there any inexpensive media converters available to do this?
>>
>> Also, we could also use a new TV in the bedroom, so a solution that 
>> feeds multiple TV's would be nice if not too expensive.
> 
>   Your budget needs to be near $1000 for such a device.  If you are
> against such an expenditure and think that some cheap Rat Shack POS box
> can do it, you are in the dark.
> 
>   First off, such a device needs to break the HDCP compliance rules to
> even exist.

Apparently rules are made to be broken....

http://www.plasma.com/dvi/exthdmi142.htm

-- 
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo  ;-P

Re: Remoteing HD TV from Satellite Box - RFI-EMI-GUY - 2009-12-21 22:27:00

Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:26:58 -0500, RFI-EMI-GUY
> <R...@NETTALLY.COM> wrote:
> 
>> I have a Dish Network box installed in my living room along with my 46" 
>> Sony Bravo LCD panel. My wife would like to mount a smaller LCD panel in 
>> the dining room slaved from the other setup. I have a free HDMI output 
>>from the satellite box because I am using component video for the Sony 
>> TV which has only one HDMI input (taken by a BlueRay player). So my 
>> first option is to use the available HDMI, or secondly to split off the 
>> component video (somehow).
>>
>> Now the problem: I need to bring this output to a TV located 25 feet 
>> away, possibly needing 75 to 100 foot cable run (to hide it). I want to 
>> use either 75 ohm cable or cat 5.
>>
>> Are there any inexpensive media converters available to do this?
>>
>> Also, we could also use a new TV in the bedroom, so a solution that 
>> feeds multiple TV's would be nice if not too expensive.
> 
> I use this...
> 
> http://www.plasma.com/selectors/ph61153.htm
> 
> What I like about it is that is has automatic "priority" switching...
> cable box on, that's routed to the video outputs; turn on DVD player,
> it's routed to video outputs... one remote does all.
> 
> Besides several video formats, it also has a built-in modulator, so I
> use the existing RG-6 to pipe great room content to all other sets in
> the house... each can choose cable as a source or tune to channel 4
> and watch what's playing on the great room DVD player.
> 
> (I notch out channel 4 on the incoming feed, and insert my own channel
> 4 into an input on my ChannelPlus distribution amplifier.)
> 		
>                                         ...Jim Thompson

Good site, they may have all the parts to do this right from an HD source.

-- 
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo  ;-P

Re: Remoteing HD TV from Satellite Box - Jan Panteltje - 2009-12-22 06:18:00

On a sunny day (Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:25:20 -0500) it happened RFI-EMI-GUY
<R...@NETTALLY.COM> wrote in
<4b303c18$0$4980$9...@unlimited.newshosting.com>:


>Apparently rules are made to be broken....
>
>http://www.plasma.com/dvi/exthdmi142.htm

Bit steep price for a simple splitter 263$89 don't you think?
 

Re: Remoteing HD TV from Satellite Box - JosephKK - 2009-12-27 18:26:00

On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:26:58 -0500, RFI-EMI-GUY <R...@NETTALLY.COM> =
wrote:

>I have a Dish Network box installed in my living room along with my 46"=20
>Sony Bravo LCD panel. My wife would like to mount a smaller LCD panel in=
=20
>the dining room slaved from the other setup. I have a free HDMI output=20
>from the satellite box because I am using component video for the Sony=20
>TV which has only one HDMI input (taken by a BlueRay player). So my=20
>first option is to use the available HDMI, or secondly to split off the=20
>component video (somehow).
>
>Now the problem: I need to bring this output to a TV located 25 feet=20
>away, possibly needing 75 to 100 foot cable run (to hide it). I want to=20
>use either 75 ohm cable or cat 5.

Doable/been done, hard to find and expensive.
>
>Are there any inexpensive media converters available to do this?
>
>Also, we could also use a new TV in the bedroom, so a solution that=20
>feeds multiple TV's would be nice if not too expensive.

You can buy HDMI-FO cables, for example:

http://www2.dvigear.com/hdfiopca.html

Then again how much is your time worth?

HDMI splitters, you are on your own.

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