Author: Homer J SimpsonDate: 22:21 26-01-07
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"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> You are kidding right?
> Avoid HP and Tektronix????
> They are only two of the biggest and reputable scope makers in history.
Yes, and they also make some oddball scopes, scopes with plugins, and other
oddities. There are other things I wouldn't recommend buying unless you know
what you are doing. The OP is buying his first scope. He doesn't need to
wind up with something he can't use.
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Author: KitDate: 22:57 26-01-07
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Author: Homer J SimpsonDate: 23:24 26-01-07
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Author: Brian EllisDate: 23:59 26-01-07
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Author: ehsjrDate: 00:37 27-01-07
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Author: Homer J SimpsonDate: 01:18 27-01-07
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Author: John FieldsDate: 08:43 27-01-07
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 03:21:22 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
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>"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1169856854.990346.49610@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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>> You are kidding right?
>> Avoid HP and Tektronix????
>> They are only two of the biggest and reputable scope makers in history.
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>Yes, and they also make some oddball scopes, scopes with plugins, and other
>oddities. There are other things I wouldn't recommend buying unless you know
>what you are doing.
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Then I recommend that you never buy anything. :-)
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>The OP is buying his first scope.
>He doesn't need to wind up with something he can't use.
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I'd say advice from you is something he _shouldn't_ use.
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Author: John FieldsDate: 09:14 27-01-07
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Author: Brian EllisDate: 09:59 27-01-07
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"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "Brian Ellis" <XXbellis350@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:NdWdnXSGjsJORifYnZ2dnUVZ_rGinZ2d@comcast.com...
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>> If I were buying, first choice would be the one you listed second (even
>> though it looks like it doesn't come with scope probes).
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> Note that probes are not a cheap item even on eBay.
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You got that right! If the Op can't afford to get probes, then that scope is
out. But, if he can, that scope would more than likely fill his needs, down
the road (if he gets more into electronics).
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Brian Ellis
FNC-Elcad
http://www.fncwired.com/
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Author: Homer J SimpsonDate: 13:54 27-01-07
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Author: Homer J SimpsonDate: 13:54 27-01-07
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Author: John FieldsDate: 15:14 27-01-07
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 18:54:54 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
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>"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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>> I'd say advice from you is something he _shouldn't_ use.
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>But what you say is irrelevant. He also doesn't seem interested in a whiny
>nobody who adds nothing of value to any conversation.
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I guess you won't be getting any emails from him any time soon,
then...
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JF
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Author: Homer J SimpsonDate: 15:35 27-01-07
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Author: David L. JonesDate: 19:19 28-01-07
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On Jan 27, 2:21 pm, "Homer J Simpson" <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:1169856854.990346.49610@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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> > You are kidding right?
> > Avoid HP and Tektronix????
> > They are only two of the biggest and reputable scope makers in history.Yes,
and they also make some oddball scopes, scopes with plugins, and other
> oddities. There are other things I wouldn't recommend buying unless you know
> what you are doing. The OP is buying his first scope. He doesn't need to
> wind up with something he can't use.
There is a list of HP and Tek scoes as long as your arm that are
perfectly "normal" and usable for a beginner.
As I pointed out in my other post somewhere, digital scopes are
usually NOT one of these, regardless of the brand. Nothing inherently
wrong with a plug-in scope. Any general purpose analog oscilloscope is
what the OP needs.
Telling a beginner to avoid HP and Tek scopes outright must rank right
up there on the dumb post of the year award.
Dave :)
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Author: Homer J SimpsonDate: 20:04 28-01-07
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"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Telling a beginner to avoid HP and Tek scopes outright must rank right
> up there on the dumb post of the year award.
No, your post won that one.
Post a list of the ones that are OK and the ones that are not OK to buy if
you are buying your first scope and know nothing about them.
What does he do if he buys one that needs plugins and can't find them?
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Author: David L. JonesDate: 20:22 28-01-07
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On Jan 29, 12:04 pm, "Homer J Simpson" <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:1170029981.971730.287290@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
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> > Telling a beginner to avoid HP and Tek scopes outright must rank right
> > up there on the dumb post of the year award.No, your post won that one.
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> Post a list of the ones that are OK and the ones that are not OK to buy if
> you are buying your first scope and know nothing about them.
How about you post a list of ones that aren't OK first?
> What does he do if he buys one that needs plugins and can't find them?
Oh gee, let me guess, umm, he doesn't buy it in the first place?
The OP should already be getting the gist of this now, so shouldn't be
rushing out and buy some big hunking old Tek with empty slots.
Just your stand dual channel 20MHz+ CRO with the basic knobs is all he
needs.
Dave :)
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Author: David L. JonesDate: 20:31 28-01-07
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On Jan 27, 2:57 pm, "Kit" <kit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 26, 7:21 pm, "Homer J Simpson" <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:
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> > "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:1169856854.990346.49610@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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> > > You are kidding right?
> > > Avoid HP and Tektronix????
> > > They are only two of the biggest and reputable scope makers in
history.Yes, and they also make some oddball scopes, scopes with plugins, and other
> > oddities. There are other things I wouldn't recommend buying unless you know
> > what you are doing. The OP is buying his first scope. He doesn't need to
> > wind up with something he can't use.Hi I found these on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Tektronix-2213A-60MHz-Oscilloscope-Probes-P6122-
M...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Tektronix-Tek-465B-100-MHz-Oscilloscope-
LOOK_W0QQ...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Tektronix-2215-Oscilloscope-Nice-
Condition_W0QQit...
> Is any one of these better that the others?
> Thanks
> -Kit
Yep on all 3 of those Kit.
The 2213 or 2215 is probably slightly easier to use than the 465.
Nothing fancy to confuse you, this is what you want, a nice basic dual
channel analog oscilloscope.
Buy one and enjoy!
Dave :)
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Author: Homer J SimpsonDate: 21:07 28-01-07
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"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> What does he do if he buys one that needs plugins and can't find them?
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> Oh gee, let me guess, umm, he doesn't buy it in the first place?
No, he buys it and realizes the problem when it arrives.
> The OP should already be getting the gist of this now, so shouldn't be
> rushing out and buy some big hunking old Tek with empty slots.
> Just your stand dual channel 20MHz+ CRO with the basic knobs is all he
> needs.
Which covers almost everything EXCEPT HP and Tek.
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Author: David L. JonesDate: 22:02 28-01-07
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On Jan 29, 1:07 pm, "Homer J Simpson" <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:1170033774.021200.160520@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
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> >> What does he do if he buys one that needs plugins and can't find them?
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> > Oh gee, let me guess, umm, he doesn't buy it in the first place?No, he buys it
and realizes the problem when it arrives.
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> > The OP should already be getting the gist of this now, so shouldn't be
> > rushing out and buy some big hunking old Tek with empty slots.
> > Just your stand dual channel 20MHz+ CRO with the basic knobs is all he
> > needs.
> Which covers almost everything EXCEPT HP and Tek.
Oh really?
What about those three Tek's the OP gaves links for on eBay?
They look like normal dual channel analog scopes to me.
Even you said they were ok.
MANY other manufacturers also have wierdo scopes of one kind or
another that could confuse a beginner.
Almost any digital scope design from any manufacturer before the
current crop of "analog operation like" DSO's fits that bill.
Dave :)
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Author: Homer J SimpsonDate: 21:21 29-01-07
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"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> What about those three Tek's the OP gaves links for on eBay?
> They look like normal dual channel analog scopes to me.
> Even you said they were ok.
> MANY other manufacturers also have wierdo scopes of one kind or
> another that could confuse a beginner.
> Almost any digital scope design from any manufacturer before the
> current crop of "analog operation like" DSO's fits that bill.
My advice to a first time buyer was valid.
Clearly the OP is NOT buying one of these on his own, but on recommendations
from those here who have looked at the choices on eBay.
Your argument is stupid. Go away.
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