Was in Portugal last year with a 50 watt converter.  Didn't work worth
beans.  Any chance I can buy a plug when Im over there and a small
clamp then only use one side of there 220 and the other side I would
clamp to a ground (copper pipe or something)
Thanks
Rick

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:47:18 -0700, trickyrick wrote:

> Was in Portugal last year with a 50 watt converter.  Didn't work worth
> beans.  Any chance I can buy a plug when Im over there and a small clamp
> then only use one side of there 220 and the other side I would clamp to
> a ground (copper pipe or something) Thanks
> Rick

AFAIK it doesn't work that way -- it's either isolated from ground or 
it's the usual ground/neutral arrangement, just with 220 instead of 110.

Hopefully this'll either answer your question or attract a real answer 
from someone who lives over there...

-- 
www.wescottdesign.com

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:47:18 -0700 (PDT), trickyrick
<r...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Was in Portugal last year with a 50 watt converter.  Didn't work worth
>beans.  Any chance I can buy a plug when Im over there and a small
>clamp then only use one side of there 220 and the other side I would
>clamp to a ground (copper pipe or something)
>Thanks
>Rick

European power is nominally 240 to ground/neutral. There's no 110
anywhere to access.

John

On Oct 29, 7:55=A0pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:47:18 -0700 (PDT), trickyrick
>
> <ri...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >Was in Portugal last year with a 50 watt converter. =A0Didn't work worth
> >beans. =A0Any chance I can buy a plug when Im over there and a small
> >clamp then only use one side of there 220 and the other side I would
> >clamp to a ground (copper pipe or something)
> >Thanks
> >Rick
>
> European power is nominally 240 to ground/neutral. There's no 110
> anywhere to access.
>
> John

Guess that answers my question thanks

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:00:23 -0700, trickyrick wrote:

> On Oct 29, 7:55 pm, John Larkin
> <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:47:18 -0700 (PDT), trickyrick
>>
>> <ri...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >Was in Portugal last year with a 50 watt converter.  Didn't work worth
>> >beans.  Any chance I can buy a plug when Im over there and a small
>> >clamp then only use one side of there 220 and the other side I would
>> >clamp to a ground (copper pipe or something) Thanks
>> >Rick
>>
>> European power is nominally 240 to ground/neutral. There's no 110
>> anywhere to access.
>>
>> John
> 
> Guess that answers my question thanks

Get a decent adapter!

-- 
www.wescottdesign.com

Em Quinta 29 Outubro 2009 23:20, Tim Wescott escreveu:

> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:47:18 -0700, trickyrick wrote:
> 
>> Was in Portugal last year with a 50 watt converter.  Didn't work worth
>> beans.  Any chance I can buy a plug when Im over there and a small clamp
>> then only use one side of there 220 and the other side I would clamp to
>> a ground (copper pipe or something) Thanks
>> Rick
> 
> AFAIK it doesn't work that way -- it's either isolated from ground or
> it's the usual ground/neutral arrangement, just with 220 instead of 110.
> 
> Hopefully this'll either answer your question or attract a real answer
> from someone who lives over there...
> 

Monofasic AC power have a live and a neutral, the neutral is nearly groung 
(but not the ground for protection of metal devices) and the live is 
230volts (was 220V a until a few years ago).

Any attempt to connect something between live and ground, or neutral and 
ground will trigger the earth leakage circuit breakers.


The OP needs a transformer 230VAC/110VAC, and i guess more powerfull than 
50Watt, at least more powerfull than the devices he is going to plug.

best regards from Portugal