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basics | Definition of AC vs DC power


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Definition of AC vs DC power - Corranet - 2009-06-29 06:52:00

If I have an AC power supply alternating between -1V and +1V and I add
to it (in series) a DC supply of 10V, is the resulting power supply
(which varies between 9V and 11V) an AC supply or a DC supply?



Re: Definition of AC vs DC power - Phil Allison - 2009-06-29 07:41:00

"Corranet"
>
> If I have an AC power supply alternating between -1V and +1V and I add
> to it (in series) a DC supply of 10V, is the resulting power supply
> (which varies between 9V and 11V) an AC supply or a DC supply?


** DC.

Cos the voltage never changes sign.




.....  Phil 



Re: Definition of AC vs DC power - John Larkin - 2009-06-29 11:26:00

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:52:12 -0700 (PDT), Corranet
<n...@gmail.com> wrote:

>If I have an AC power supply alternating between -1V and +1V and I add
>to it (in series) a DC supply of 10V, is the resulting power supply
>(which varies between 9V and 11V) an AC supply or a DC supply?

Both. It has AC and DC components.

But the terms AC and DC aren't absolute, so don't take them too
seriously.

John


Re: Definition of AC vs DC power - Tim Wescott - 2009-06-29 12:57:00

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:52:12 -0700, Corranet wrote:

> If I have an AC power supply alternating between -1V and +1V and I add
> to it (in series) a DC supply of 10V, is the resulting power supply
> (which varies between 9V and 11V) an AC supply or a DC supply?

What you call it depends on what you want to do with it.

It's a crappy DC supply, or a _really_ crappy AC supply, or a DC supply 
with an impressed AC component, or, or, or.

-- 
www.wescottdesign.com

Re: Definition of AC vs DC power - 2009-06-29 15:43:00

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, Corranet wrote:

> If I have an AC power supply alternating between -1V and +1V and I add
> to it (in series) a DC supply of 10V, is the resulting power supply
> (which varies between 9V and 11V) an AC supply or a DC supply?
>
Why do you want a definition?

The reason for that need may help to define the answer.

The concept is hardly out of the ordinary.  Lots of circuits over the
years have that very situation, a tube or transistor fed from a DC
voltage, but amplifying an AC voltage.  Nobody fussed over the
definition, it was a natural thing (since the circuit needed the
DC), and you ignored whatever one that wasn't the issue at the time.
Coupling capacitors would strip off the DC component when only the
AC was wanted (such as when feeding the output of one stage into
the other, and each stage was biased separately so you didn't
want the DC voltage from the output of one stage to get into the
input of the next stage) or a big coupling capacitor at the output
of an audio amplifier to keep the DC off the speaker.

Perhaps the concept is less common now since a lot of equipment
does run off dual-polarity power supplies.

   Michael


Re: Definition of AC vs DC power - Charles - 2009-06-29 18:47:00

"Phil Allison" <p...@tpg.com.au> wrote in message 
news:7...@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Corranet"
>>
>> If I have an AC power supply alternating between -1V and +1V and I add
>> to it (in series) a DC supply of 10V, is the resulting power supply
>> (which varies between 9V and 11V) an AC supply or a DC supply?

A DC supply with an AC component (used to be called the "ripple" component). 



Re: Definition of AC vs DC power - David L. Jones - 2009-06-29 19:05:00

Corranet wrote:
> If I have an AC power supply alternating between -1V and +1V and I add
> to it (in series) a DC supply of 10V, is the resulting power supply
> (which varies between 9V and 11V) an AC supply or a DC supply?

It's effectively a DC supply, as the current no longer "alternates" in 
direction.
More commonly it might be clarified as a "DC supply with AC ripple" or some 
such.
But what you call it depends on how you want to interpret it for your 
application/need.
e.g. It may not be incorrect to say it's an "AC supply with a DC bias"
There are no absolute definitions here.

Dave.
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Re: Definition of AC vs DC power - baron - 2009-06-30 06:52:00

Corranet Inscribed thus:

> If I have an AC power supply alternating between -1V and +1V and I add
> to it (in series) a DC supply of 10V, is the resulting power supply
> (which varies between 9V and 11V) an AC supply or a DC supply?

Its a DC power supply with 20% AC ripple. 

-- 
Best Regards:
                Baron.

Re: Definition of AC vs DC power - Jamie - 2009-06-30 12:42:00

Corranet wrote:
> If I have an AC power supply alternating between -1V and +1V and I add
> to it (in series) a DC supply of 10V, is the resulting power supply
> (which varies between 9V and 11V) an AC supply or a DC supply?
A DC supply with a ripple on it.


Re: Definition of AC vs DC power - Rich Grise - 2009-06-30 14:58:00

On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:42:53 -0400, Jamie wrote:

> Corranet wrote:
>> If I have an AC power supply alternating between -1V and +1V and I add
>> to it (in series) a DC supply of 10V, is the resulting power supply
>> (which varies between 9V and 11V) an AC supply or a DC supply?

> A DC supply with a ripple on it.

Or an AC supply with an offset, or bias, of +10V. ;-)

It depends on the application.

Hope This Helps!
Rich


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