Hi:

Does a device that performs the following conversions and modulations
exist? If not, is it possible to construct?

Prior to being superimposed on a carrier wave, a modulator signal has
its alternating-current converted to direct-current of the same
frequency, amperage, voltage, and wattage.

What I mean by this is that before this AC-to-DC conversion, if
graphed, the current will be seen going up from the x-axis [zero] to
its peak, then down to x-axis, then below the x-axis to its negative
peak, then back up to the x-axis. Both the positive and negative peaks
are of equal distant from the x-axis. This is an AC cycle.

After AC-DC conversion, if graphed the current goes from the x-axis to
it=92s peak, then down to the x-axis, then back up to it=92s peak and then
down to the x-axis again. As you can see, there is no longer any
negative polarity. It goes from 0 to peak to 0 repeats. This is a DC
cycle. Once again, both peaks are equally distant from the x-axis.

After this is when the modulation occurs.

During modulation, the carrier wave [also a DC current because it
never goes below the x-axis] is affected by the modulator wave. The
carrier=92s base frequency is zero Hz and its base amplitude is zero
watts-per-square-meter.

Base =3D without modulation

When the modulator signal=92s frequency increases, the peak-to-peak
amplitude of the carrier signal increases equivalent to the following
manner: In numbers, the peak-to-peak amplitude [in watts-per-square-
meter] of the carrier signal equates to the frequency of the modulator
signal [Hz]

When the modulator signal=92s frequency decreases, the peak-to-peak
amplitude of the carrier signal decreases equivalent to the following
manner: In numbers, the peak-to-peak amplitude [in watts-per-square-
meter] of the carrier signal equates to the frequency of the modulator
signal [Hz]

When the modulator signal=92s peak-to-peak amplitude increases, the
carrier=92s frequency increases such that =96 in numbers =96 the frequency
of the carrier wave [in Hz] equates to the amplitude [in watts-per-
square-meter] of the modulator wave.

When the modulator signal=92s peak-to-peak amplitude decreases, the
carrier=92s frequency decreases such that =96 in numbers =96 the frequency
of the carrier wave [in Hz] equates to the amplitude [in watts-per-
square-meter] of the modulator wave.

During demodulation:
When the carrier signal=92s frequency increases, the peak-to-peak
amplitude of the demodulated modulator signal increases equivalent to
the following manner: In numbers, the peak-to-peak amplitude [in watts-
per-square-meter] of the demodulated modulator signal equates to the
frequency of the carrier signal [Hz].

When the carrier signal=92s frequency decreases, the peak-to-peak
amplitude of the demodulated modulator signal decreases equivalent to
the following manner: In numbers, the peak-to-peak amplitude [in watts-
per-square-meter] of the demodulated modulator signal equates to the
frequency of the carrier signal [Hz].

When the carrier signal=92s peak-to-peak amplitude increases, the
demodulated modulator signal=92s frequency increases such that =96 in
numbers =96 the frequency of the demodulated modulator wave [in Hz]
equates to the amplitude [in watts-per-square-meter] of the carrier
wave

When the carrier signal=92s peak-to-peak amplitude decreases, the
demodulated modulator signal=92s frequency decreases such that =96 in
numbers =96 the frequency of the demodulated modulator wave [in Hz]
equates to the amplitude [in watts-per-square-meter] of the carrier
wave


Thanks

On May 7, 7:33=A0pm, GreenXenon <glucege...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
 >
 > When the carrier signal=92s peak-to-peak amplitude decreases, the
 > demodulated modulator signal=92s frequency decreases such that =96 in
 > numbers =96 the frequency of the demodulated modulator wave [in Hz]
 > equates to the amplitude [in watts-per-square-meter] of the carrier
 > wave
 >
 > Thanks

Congratulations. It appears you've discovered 'radio'. Available
wherever fine electronics is sold.

G=B2

s...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> Congratulations. It appears you've discovered 'radio'. Available
> wherever fine electronics is sold.


   Please don't feed the 'radium' troll.


-- 
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

On May 7, 10:33=A0pm, GreenXenon <glucege...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi:
>
> Does a device that performs the following conversions and modulations
> exist? If not, is it possible to construct?
>
> Prior to being superimposed on a carrier wave, a modulator signal has
> its alternating-current converted to direct-current of the same
> frequency, amperage, voltage, and wattage.
>
> What I mean by this is that before this AC-to-DC conversion, if
> graphed, the current will be seen going up from the x-axis [zero] to
> its peak, then down to x-axis, then below the x-axis to its negative
> peak, then back up to the x-axis. Both the positive and negative peaks
> are of equal distant from the x-axis. This is an AC cycle.
>
> After AC-DC conversion, if graphed the current goes from the x-axis to
> it=92s peak, then down to the x-axis, then back up to it=92s peak and the=
n
> down to the x-axis again. As you can see, there is no longer any
> negative polarity. It goes from 0 to peak to 0 repeats. This is a DC
> cycle. Once again, both peaks are equally distant from the x-axis.
>
> After this is when the modulation occurs.
>
> During modulation, the carrier wave [also a DC current because it
> never goes below the x-axis] is affected by the modulator wave. The
> carrier=92s base frequency is zero Hz and its base amplitude is zero
> watts-per-square-meter.
>
> Base =3D without modulation
>
> When the modulator signal=92s frequency increases, the peak-to-peak
> amplitude of the carrier signal increases equivalent to the following
> manner: In numbers, the peak-to-peak amplitude [in watts-per-square-
> meter] of the carrier signal equates to the frequency of the modulator
> signal [Hz]
>
> When the modulator signal=92s frequency decreases, the peak-to-peak
> amplitude of the carrier signal decreases equivalent to the following
> manner: In numbers, the peak-to-peak amplitude [in watts-per-square-
> meter] of the carrier signal equates to the frequency of the modulator
> signal [Hz]
>
> When the modulator signal=92s peak-to-peak amplitude increases, the
> carrier=92s frequency increases such that =96 in numbers =96 the frequenc=
y
> of the carrier wave [in Hz] equates to the amplitude [in watts-per-
> square-meter] of the modulator wave.
>
> When the modulator signal=92s peak-to-peak amplitude decreases, the
> carrier=92s frequency decreases such that =96 in numbers =96 the frequenc=
y
> of the carrier wave [in Hz] equates to the amplitude [in watts-per-
> square-meter] of the modulator wave.
>
> During demodulation:
> When the carrier signal=92s frequency increases, the peak-to-peak
> amplitude of the demodulated modulator signal increases equivalent to
> the following manner: In numbers, the peak-to-peak amplitude [in watts-
> per-square-meter] of the demodulated modulator signal equates to the
> frequency of the carrier signal [Hz].
>
> When the carrier signal=92s frequency decreases, the peak-to-peak
> amplitude of the demodulated modulator signal decreases equivalent to
> the following manner: In numbers, the peak-to-peak amplitude [in watts-
> per-square-meter] of the demodulated modulator signal equates to the
> frequency of the carrier signal [Hz].
>
> When the carrier signal=92s peak-to-peak amplitude increases, the
> demodulated modulator signal=92s frequency increases such that =96 in
> numbers =96 the frequency of the demodulated modulator wave [in Hz]
> equates to the amplitude [in watts-per-square-meter] of the carrier
> wave
>
> When the carrier signal=92s peak-to-peak amplitude decreases, the
> demodulated modulator signal=92s frequency decreases such that =96 in
> numbers =96 the frequency of the demodulated modulator wave [in Hz]
> equates to the amplitude [in watts-per-square-meter] of the carrier
> wave
>
> Thanks

You appear to be describing voltage-to-frequency conversion (V2F) and
its inverse, frequency-to-voltage conversion (F2V). Your modulator
seems to perform both functions simultaneously -  the frequency and
amplitude of an input signal are encoded as the amplitude and
frequency (respectively) of an output signal. The demodulator is just
the opposite, which you might achieve by just exchanging the
connections to a second "modulator".

There are many ways to do this in practice. Why do you ask?

--
Joe

On May 7, 10:33 pm, GreenXenon <glucege...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi:
>
> Does a device that performs the following conversions and modulations
> exist? If not, is it possible to construct?
>
> Prior to being superimposed on a carrier wave, a modulator signal has
> its alternating-current converted to direct-current of the same
> frequency, amperage, voltage, and wattage.

Since direct current by defintion has no frequency, what you're asking
for is not just impossible, the question makes no sense.

On May 8, 4:55 am, "J.A. Legris" <jaleg...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> You appear to be describing voltage-to-frequency conversion (V2F) and
> its inverse, frequency-to-voltage conversion (F2V). Your modulator
> seems to perform both functions simultaneously -  the frequency and
> amplitude of an input signal are encoded as the amplitude and
> frequency (respectively) of an output signal. The demodulator is just
> the opposite, which you might achieve by just exchanging the
> connections to a second "modulator".
>



> There are many ways to do this in practice. Why do you ask?

I think this device would be useful in generating a higher frequency
signal from a bunch of lower frequency signals.

For example, achieving a 10 Hz signal from ten 1 Hz signals.

a...@netzero.com wrote:
> On May 7, 10:33 pm, GreenXenon <glucege...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>> Does a device that performs the following conversions and modulations
>> exist? If not, is it possible to construct?
>>
>> Prior to being superimposed on a carrier wave, a modulator signal has
>> its alternating-current converted to direct-current of the same
>> frequency, amperage, voltage, and wattage.
> 
> Since direct current by defintion has no frequency, what you're asking
> for is not just impossible, the question makes no sense.

People get confused between pulsed DC and AC

-- 
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On Thu, 07 May 2009 20:17:27 -0700, stratus46 wrote:
> 
> Congratulations. It appears you've discovered 'radio'. Available
> wherever fine electronics is sold.
                            ^^ are. The word "electronics" is a plural
                                     noun.

Hope This Helps! ;-)
Rich

GreenXenon wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> Does a device that performs the following conversions and modulations
> exist? If not, is it possible to construct?
> 
> Prior to being superimposed on a carrier wave, a modulator signal has
> its alternating-current converted to direct-current of the same
> frequency, amperage, voltage, and wattage.
> 
> What I mean by this is that before this AC-to-DC conversion, if
> graphed, the current will be seen going up from the x-axis [zero] to
> its peak, then down to x-axis, then below the x-axis to its negative
> peak, then back up to the x-axis. Both the positive and negative peaks
> are of equal distant from the x-axis. This is an AC cycle.
> 
> After AC-DC conversion, if graphed the current goes from the x-axis to
> it’s peak, then down to the x-axis, then back up to it’s peak and then
> down to the x-axis again. As you can see, there is no longer any
> negative polarity. It goes from 0 to peak to 0 repeats. This is a DC
> cycle. Once again, both peaks are equally distant from the x-axis.
> 
> After this is when the modulation occurs.
> 
> During modulation, the carrier wave [also a DC current because it
> never goes below the x-axis] is affected by the modulator wave. The
> carrier’s base frequency is zero Hz and its base amplitude is zero
> watts-per-square-meter.
> 
> Base = without modulation
> 
> When the modulator signal’s frequency increases, the peak-to-peak
> amplitude of the carrier signal increases equivalent to the following
> manner: In numbers, the peak-to-peak amplitude [in watts-per-square-
> meter] of the carrier signal equates to the frequency of the modulator
> signal [Hz]
> 
> When the modulator signal’s frequency decreases, the peak-to-peak
> amplitude of the carrier signal decreases equivalent to the following
> manner: In numbers, the peak-to-peak amplitude [in watts-per-square-
> meter] of the carrier signal equates to the frequency of the modulator
> signal [Hz]
> 
> When the modulator signal’s peak-to-peak amplitude increases, the
> carrier’s frequency increases such that – in numbers – the frequency
> of the carrier wave [in Hz] equates to the amplitude [in watts-per-
> square-meter] of the modulator wave.
> 
> When the modulator signal’s peak-to-peak amplitude decreases, the
> carrier’s frequency decreases such that – in numbers – the frequency
> of the carrier wave [in Hz] equates to the amplitude [in watts-per-
> square-meter] of the modulator wave.
> 
> During demodulation:
> When the carrier signal’s frequency increases, the peak-to-peak
> amplitude of the demodulated modulator signal increases equivalent to
> the following manner: In numbers, the peak-to-peak amplitude [in watts-
> per-square-meter] of the demodulated modulator signal equates to the
> frequency of the carrier signal [Hz].
> 
> When the carrier signal’s frequency decreases, the peak-to-peak
> amplitude of the demodulated modulator signal decreases equivalent to
> the following manner: In numbers, the peak-to-peak amplitude [in watts-
> per-square-meter] of the demodulated modulator signal equates to the
> frequency of the carrier signal [Hz].
> 
> When the carrier signal’s peak-to-peak amplitude increases, the
> demodulated modulator signal’s frequency increases such that – in
> numbers – the frequency of the demodulated modulator wave [in Hz]
> equates to the amplitude [in watts-per-square-meter] of the carrier
> wave
> 
> When the carrier signal’s peak-to-peak amplitude decreases, the
> demodulated modulator signal’s frequency decreases such that – in
> numbers – the frequency of the demodulated modulator wave [in Hz]
> equates to the amplitude [in watts-per-square-meter] of the carrier
> wave
> 
> 
> Thanks
THey call that a V TO F, F to V,.  V = Voltage, Frequency.

  what you described is a  Frequency to Voltage, and  Back to
  Voltage to Frequency..

   Both exist in the industrial world for doing things like converting
  encoder signals to analog and the other way.

   In the basic electronics, there are various ways to accomplish this.

  One common method is to use a PLL circuit.
etc...

   Or did I miss understand that long tail?

http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5";

GreenXenon wrote:
> When the modulator signal’s peak-to-peak amplitude increases, the
> carrier’s frequency increases such that – in numbers – the frequency
> of the carrier wave [in Hz] equates to the amplitude [in watts-per-
> square-meter] of the modulator wave.

    I think you're describing a voltage-controlled oscillator.
See "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage-controlled_oscillator";
Read that and then come back.

					John Nagle