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trick to detecting clock? - j_slobo@hotmail.com - 2008-06-14 06:15:00

Is there some way to detect a 3-5volt say khz clock using an ordinary
instrument(no osciloscope)



Re: trick to detecting clock? - N_Cook - 2008-06-14 07:31:00

<j...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Is there some way to detect a 3-5volt say khz clock using an ordinary
> instrument(no osciloscope)

A crystal earpiece, assuming voltages not more than 50 volt.
A much underestimated piece of diagnostic test gear.


--
General electronic repairs, most things repaired, other than TVs and PCs
http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/repairs.htm

Diverse Devices, Southampton, England






Re: trick to detecting clock? - John Fields - 2008-06-14 07:50:00

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:15:26 -0700 (PDT), "j...@hotmail.com"
<j...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Is there some way to detect a 3-5volt say khz clock using an ordinary
>instrument(no osciloscope)

---
AC or DC voltmeter.

JF

Re: trick to detecting clock? - Gareth Magennis - 2008-06-14 08:32:00

<j...@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:c...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Is there some way to detect a 3-5volt say khz clock using an ordinary
> instrument(no osciloscope)


With a multimeter that measures frequency.



Gareth. 



Re: trick to detecting clock? - Bob Masta - 2008-06-14 08:41:00

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:15:26 -0700 (PDT), "j...@hotmail.com"
<j...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Is there some way to detect a 3-5volt say khz clock using an ordinary
>instrument(no osciloscope)

You can use your computer's sound card.   You can add a voltage
divider to insure the sound card Line input is getting less than about
3 Vpp, if you want to make sure you don't clip its input.  (The input
can handle 5V without damage, but the wave will be clipped.)  If you
want to avoid loading the clock output with the sound card input
(which can be in the 2K to 47K range), you can use big resistors for
the divider.  Don't worry about dividing it down too low... the sound
card has 16 bits of resolution, so you'll be able to see
sub-millivolts easily.

SHAMELESS PLUG:  You can try my Daqarta software for free.
It has calibration options so you can use it as a real scope (as well
as spectrum analyzer, frequency counter, voltmeter, sound level meter,
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I'll be glad to answer any questions.

Best regards,


Bob Masta
 
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Re: trick to detecting clock? - bz - 2008-06-14 08:45:00

"j...@hotmail.com" <j...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:ce59ac53-6740-
4...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

> Is there some way to detect a 3-5volt say khz clock using an ordinary
> instrument(no osciloscope)

With a few ICs and LEDs you can build a logic probe with pulse detection.

http://www.eng.cam.ac.uk/DesignOffice/mdp/electric_web/Exper/EXP_7.html
has several interesting circuits, easy to build.

and for a 'delux' device
http://members.cox.net/berniekm/super.html





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bz    	73 de N5BZ k

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an 
infinite set.

bz+s...@ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu   remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap

Re: trick to detecting clock? - William Sommerwerck - 2008-06-14 10:02:00

Might I point out that an oscilloscope _is_ an "ordinary instrument"? At
least, in my sense of the word "ordinary" -- it's ordinarily found in any
electronics shop.

I work at Microsoft Hardware, and there has been a total switchover to
multi-color LCD 'scopes. The cheaper ones are not _horribly_ expensive.



Re: trick to detecting clock? - Fleetie - 2008-06-14 10:49:00

The obvious choice, as Mr Cook says, is a crystal earpiece.

With one of those, the OP won't even need to make 2 connections;
just touching the tip of the jack plug on the conductor that's
oscillating at a few kHz and a few volts will be enough to make
it faintly audible with careful listening.


Martin


Re: trick to detecting clock? - Ron(UK) - 2008-06-14 12:01:00

Fleetie wrote:
> The obvious choice, as Mr Cook says, is a crystal earpiece.
> 
> With one of those, the OP won't even need to make 2 connections;
> just touching the tip of the jack plug on the conductor that's
> oscillating at a few kHz and a few volts will be enough to make
> it faintly audible with careful listening.
> 

One of the most useful bit of kit in my toolbox is a device I made 
myself some 35 or so years ago. It`s a crystal earpiece with one wire 
terminated in a croc clip and the other in a probe made from an old 
ballpoint pen and a brass nail, there`s a capacitor in series to provide 
DC blocking.
With this simple device I can trace audio through a circuit- from the 
output of a crystal pick-up to several hundreds watts, I can detect 
digital pulses, hear hum on a DC supply, etc. etc.

Ron(UK)

Re: trick to detecting clock? - Sjouke Burry - 2008-06-14 12:15:00

j...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Is there some way to detect a 3-5volt say khz clock using an ordinary
> instrument(no osciloscope)
Buy a meter with freq. range. A lot of them are
equipped with that.
Mine(78Euro Extech)has Farad/Hertz/Farenheit/Celcius as
bonus ranges, temp is done with a termocouple.

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