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Date: 13:36 23-05-08


Can anyone confirm whether following microwave oven components are
dead
-diode hvr1x8019:tested with analog ohm meter-short both directions
-rectifier 2x062h 8025:..open in both directions
tnx

Author: mike
Date: 15:33 23-05-08

anglomont@yahoo.com wrote:
> Can anyone confirm whether following microwave oven components are
> dead
> -diode hvr1x8019:tested with analog ohm meter-short both directions
probably
> -rectifier 2x062h 8025:..open in both directions
What's the forward voltage spec of the diode?
What's the highest voltage your meter can supply?
if second is lower than the first it will look open.
> tnx


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Author: James Sweet
Date: 15:38 23-05-08


mike wrote:
> anglomont@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Can anyone confirm whether following microwave oven components are
>> dead
>> -diode hvr1x8019:tested with analog ohm meter-short both directions
> probably
>> -rectifier 2x062h 8025:..open in both directions
> What's the forward voltage spec of the diode?
> What's the highest voltage your meter can supply?
> if second is lower than the first it will look open.
>> tnx
>
>


If the diode tests shorted in both directions it's bad. The one that
tests open is probably good, those have a high breakdown voltage, the
ohm meter can't exceed that.

Author: DaveM
Date: 16:45 23-05-08

<anglomont@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e9ede4c8-a93c-4d40-8a59-7ecb7bb3b571@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> Can anyone confirm whether following microwave oven components are
> dead
> -diode hvr1x8019:tested with analog ohm meter-short both directions
> -rectifier 2x062h 8025:..open in both directions
> tnx

The diode that reads short in both directions is definitely bad. The other, if
it's a high voltage rectifier, might have too high Vf to be properly tested by a
multimeter. Those are best tested by a Huntron Tracker or by replacement.

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Author: James Sweet
Date: 17:31 23-05-08


DaveM wrote:
> <anglomont@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:e9ede4c8-a93c-4d40-8a59-7ecb7bb3b571@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> Can anyone confirm whether following microwave oven components are
>> dead
>> -diode hvr1x8019:tested with analog ohm meter-short both directions
>> -rectifier 2x062h 8025:..open in both directions
>> tnx
>
> The diode that reads short in both directions is definitely bad. The other, if
> it's a high voltage rectifier, might have too high Vf to be properly tested by a
> multimeter. Those are best tested by a Huntron Tracker or by replacement.
>


Or test them by applying mains voltage through one to a low wattage
incandescent bulb. If the diode is working, the bulb will be dim and
flicker slightly running on half wave power.

Author: Phil Allison
Date: 23:28 23-05-08


<anglomont@yahoo.com>

> Can anyone confirm whether following microwave oven components are
> dead
> -diode hvr1x8019:tested with analog ohm meter-short both directions


** Dead for sure.

> -rectifier 2x062h 8025:..open in both directions


** Probably OK.

Testing such high voltage diodes ( really a multi-diode stack ) requires a
source of voltage more than what a DMM or analogue ohm meter has available.

Try connecting a 9 volt radio battery in both directions, while monitoring
current flow with your meter.


..... Phil



Author: Paul E. Schoen
Date: 00:18 24-05-08


"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:69pgblF346q3vU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> <anglomont@yahoo.com>
>
>> Can anyone confirm whether following microwave oven components are
>> dead
>> -diode hvr1x8019:tested with analog ohm meter-short both directions
>
>
> ** Dead for sure.
>
>> -rectifier 2x062h 8025:..open in both directions
>
>
> ** Probably OK.
>
> Testing such high voltage diodes ( really a multi-diode stack ) requires
> a source of voltage more than what a DMM or analogue ohm meter has
> available.
>
> Try connecting a 9 volt radio battery in both directions, while
> monitoring current flow with your meter.

With some sort of current limiter, like a light bulb, of course.

Paul



Author: Phil Allison
Date: 00:37 24-05-08


"Paul E. Schoen Smug Pig "
>
>>
>> ** Dead for sure.
>>
>>> -rectifier 2x062h 8025:..open in both directions
>>
>>
>> ** Probably OK.
>>
>> Testing such high voltage diodes ( really a multi-diode stack ) requires
>> a source of voltage more than what a DMM or analogue ohm meter has
>> available.
>>
>> Try connecting a 9 volt radio battery in both directions, while
>> monitoring current flow with your meter.
>
> With some sort of current limiter, like a light bulb, of course.
>

** Not essential.

A standard 9 volt radio battery will only deliver about 200mA into a diode
stack that conducts at 6 to 10 volts - plus a test takes only a few
seconds.

Best avoid alkaline types for this, unless it is near flat.


..... Phil




Author: William Sommerwerck
Date: 07:32 26-05-08

Some DMM user manuals suggest that you briefly short the diode while the
test leads are attached. This forces the meter to downrange and give a
less-inaccurate reading of the forward resistance when the short is removed.



Author: Phil Allison
Date: 07:50 26-05-08


"William Sommerwanker"

> Some DMM user manuals suggest that you briefly short the diode while the
> test leads are attached.


** Must be only prehistoric ones - I bet.

>This forces the meter to downrange and give a
> less-inaccurate reading of the forward resistance when the short is
> removed.


** Neither manual nor auto-ranging DMMs have enough volts available on the
ohms ranges to forward bias a single silicon diode - let alone a series
string of them, as found in microwave oven diodes.

Most DMMs have " diode test " ranges fitted, which will supply up to a
couple of volts with a fixed current of about 1 mA. The reading is then in
volts or millivolts.



...... Phil





Author: William Sommerwerck
Date: 08:27 26-05-08

>> Some DMM user manuals suggest that you briefly
>> short the diode while the test leads are attached.

> Must be only prehistoric ones -- I bet.

If the Fluke 87 is prehistoric, you lose.

The Fluke 87 does have a separate diode test. However, I'm almost certain I
read what I read in the 87's manual -- but I'm not sure, and I don't have
the time to look for it.



Author: Phil Allison
Date: 09:32 26-05-08


"William Sommerwanker Snipping Cunthead "

>>> Some DMM user manuals suggest that you briefly
>>> short the diode while the test leads are attached.
>
>> Must be only prehistoric ones -- I bet.
>
> If the Fluke 87 is prehistoric, you lose.


** Where is your proof - fuckwit ??


> The Fluke 87 does have a separate diode test.

** Yawwnnnnnnn


> However, I'm almost certain I
> read what I read in the 87's manual -- but I'm not sure,


** You are not sure if your arse is on fire or not - fuckwit.

> and I don't have the time to look for it.


** What a pathetic excuse for a liar.



..... Phil








Author: Smitty Two
Date: 10:31 26-05-08

In article <n8udnegY_ZBzMafVnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

> >> Some DMM user manuals suggest that you briefly
> >> short the diode while the test leads are attached.
>
> > Must be only prehistoric ones -- I bet.
>
> If the Fluke 87 is prehistoric, you lose.
>


Bzzzt. If the Fluke 87 is prehistoric, he wins.

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