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Sci.Electronics.Basics -> Is a purely-analog chip possible without sampling?

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Author: geoff
Date: 18:22 13-04-08


Michael R. Kesti wrote:
> Don Bowey wrote:
>
>> It's obvious you are an argumentative idiot who would like to count
>> angels on the head of a pin.
>
> Regardless of the topic of discussion or the correctness of your
> position, Don, you just lost the debate.

Must be very satisfying for the sad fuck who started this thread to see his
profound achievement...

geoff



Author: Mr.T
Date: 04:55 14-04-08


"Don Bowey" <dbowey@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C426BB21.B521A%dbowey@comcast.net...
> > It's obvious you have no idea what "quantise" means in a technical
sense. In
> > this universe everything has finite limits. Analog recordings are no
> > different, nor the signal from a microphone, or even the variations in
air
> > pressure we call sound.
> >
>
> It's obvious you are an argumentative idiot who would like to count angels
> on the head of a pin.

Is that your pathetic way of admitting you are wrong then?
(in my opinion there will also be a finite number of angels on the head of a
pin, if any :-)

MrT.




Author: Michael R. Kesti
Date: 09:53 14-04-08

geoff wrote:

>Michael R. Kesti wrote:
>> Don Bowey wrote:
>>
>>> It's obvious you are an argumentative idiot who would like to count
>>> angels on the head of a pin.
>>
>> Regardless of the topic of discussion or the correctness of your
>> position, Don, you just lost the debate.
>
>Must be very satisfying for the sad fuck who started this thread to see his
>profound achievement...

I cannot speak for the OP's level of satisfaction. Perhaps you can
explain why it is that you feel the OP is responsible for Don Bowey's
name calling.

--
========================================================================
Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make
| two, one and one make one."
mrkesti at hotmail dot com | - The Who, Bargain

Author: Don Bowey
Date: 10:34 14-04-08

On 4/14/08 1:55 AM, in article
48031bce$0$6277$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au, "Mr.T" <MrT@home> wrote:

>
> "Don Bowey" <dbowey@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:C426BB21.B521A%dbowey@comcast.net...
>>> It's obvious you have no idea what "quantise" means in a
technical
> sense. In
>>> this universe everything has finite limits. Analog recordings are no
>>> different, nor the signal from a microphone, or even the variations in
> air
>>> pressure we call sound.
>>>
>>
>> It's obvious you are an argumentative idiot who would like to count angels
>> on the head of a pin.
>
> Is that your pathetic way of admitting you are wrong then?

No. It's my pathetic way of saying it's utterly ridiculous to discuss the
original question of a 1940s technolgy in terms of quantum mechanics even if
I were to think you were up to it.

Go back to rec.audio.monstercables and pick on someone of your own
inclinations.

> (in my opinion there will also be a finite number of angels on the head of a
> pin, if any :-)
>
> MrT.
>
>
>


Author: Don Bowey
Date: 10:43 14-04-08

On 4/14/08 6:53 AM, in article 480361D7.8164F9F8@nospam.net, "Michael R.
Kesti" <michaelkesti@nospam.net> wrote:

> geoff wrote:
>
>> Michael R. Kesti wrote:
>>> Don Bowey wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's obvious you are an argumentative idiot who would like to count
>>>> angels on the head of a pin.
>>>
>>> Regardless of the topic of discussion or the correctness of your
>>> position, Don, you just lost the debate.
>>
>> Must be very satisfying for the sad fuck who started this thread to see his
>> profound achievement...
>
> I cannot speak for the OP's level of satisfaction. Perhaps you can
> explain why it is that you feel the OP is responsible for Don Bowey's
> name calling.

I'm sure he didn't say that; it is, again, you attempting to put a twist to
the thread so you can put your sizable ego and sophomoric psychology to
work.

I wonder why you used vulgar language to describe the OP, Green, who did
nothing wrong except post where you might see it and ply your hobby. You
lose.



Author: Michael R. Kesti
Date: 20:51 14-04-08

Don Bowey wrote:

>On 4/14/08 6:53 AM, in article 480361D7.8164F...@nospam.net, "Michael R.
>Kesti" <michaelke...@nospam.net> wrote:
>> geoff wrote:
>
>>> Michael R. Kesti wrote:
>>>> Don Bowey wrote:
>
>>>>> It's obvious you are an argumentative idiot who would like to count

>>>>> angels on the head of a pin.
>
>>>> Regardless of the topic of discussion or the correctness of your
>>>> position, Don, you just lost the debate.
>
>>> Must be very satisfying for the sad fuck who started this thread to see his

>>> profound achievement...
>
>> I cannot speak for the OP's level of satisfaction. Perhaps you can
>> explain why it is that you feel the OP is responsible for Don Bowey's
>> name calling.
>
>I'm sure he didn't say that;

I agree that geoff didn't say that explicitly, but he did seem to understand
that the reason I said you lost the debate was your name calling but he was
more definate concerning the OP finding that name calling satisfying. Get it?

> it is, again, you attempting to put a twist to
>the thread

The only twist to this thread that I have attempted is in pointing out how
very childish it is bash those who you feel are trolls.

> so you can put your sizable ego

I gave up reacting to ad hominem attacks a very long time ago.

> and sophomoric psychology to
>work.

Honestly, sophomoric is plenty sufficient int this case!

>I wonder why you used vulgar language to describe the OP, Green,

Oh? I'm wondering WHEN I used vulgar language to describe the OP!

> who did
>nothing wrong except post where you might see it and ply your hobby. You
>lose.

I don't feel that I have lost but you go on thinking that if it makes you
feel better about yourself.


--
========================================================================
Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make
| two, one and one make one."
mrkesti at hotmail dot com | - The Who, Bargain

Author: John Fields
Date: 19:50 09-07-08

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 11:00:26 +1200, "geoff" <geoff@nospam-paf.co.nz>
wrote:

>Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>> Is it possible to have a purely-analog chip that stores audio without
>> using any form of sampling?

---
Well... no.
---

>> If an audio cassette does not require sampling then why would an
>> analog audio chip?

---
What makes you think that an audio cassette doesn't do sampling?

During recording there's the finite width of the gap in the record
head under which the tape travels and then there's the granularity of
the magnetic particles in the tape which get magnetized as they travel
across the gap, so the sample time is how long it takes for any
particle to traverse the gap and the amplitude of the magnetic field
is what's left as they exit the gap.

JF

Author: Joerg
Date: 20:00 09-07-08

John Fields wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 11:00:26 +1200, "geoff" <geoff@nospam-paf.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
>> Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> Is it possible to have a purely-analog chip that stores audio without
>>> using any form of sampling?
>
> ---
> Well... no.
> ---
>

Some large Polynesian mussel shells supposedly do that. When you hold
them to your ear you hear the sounds of the sea.


>>> If an audio cassette does not require sampling then why would an
>>> analog audio chip?
>
> ---
> What makes you think that an audio cassette doesn't do sampling?
>
> During recording there's the finite width of the gap in the record
> head under which the tape travels and then there's the granularity of
> the magnetic particles in the tape which get magnetized as they travel
> across the gap, so the sample time is how long it takes for any
> particle to traverse the gap and the amplitude of the magnetic field
> is what's left as they exit the gap.
>

As a SW manager once put it that way: "All you analog dudes think the
real world is analog but since Max Planck it ain't so no more".

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.

Author: Mr.T
Date: 00:20 10-07-08


"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
news:Whcdk.1740$zv7.200@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com...
> Some large Polynesian mussel shells supposedly do that. When you hold
> them to your ear you hear the sounds of the sea.

Or the sound of your blood flow being acoustically amplified and reflected
back to your ear, at least.
Try it with a microphone in an anechoic chamber and let us know how you get
on :-)

(and yes, I realise you were being sarcastic, just as I am)

MrT.



Author: Rich Grise
Date: 13:20 15-07-08

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:21:15 +1000, Mr.T wrote:
> "Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
>
>> Some large Polynesian mussel shells supposedly do that. When you hold
>> them to your ear you hear the sounds of the sea.
>
> Or the sound of your blood flow being acoustically amplified and
> reflected back to your ear, at least.

I'm sure the ambient noise swamps the sound of your blood by a few orders
of magnitude. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich


Author: Richard Crowley
Date: 14:18 15-07-08

"Rich Grise" wrote ...
> Mr.T wrote:
>> "Joerg" wrote
>>> Some large Polynesian mussel shells supposedly do that. When you hold
>>> them to your ear you hear the sounds of the sea.
>>
>> Or the sound of your blood flow being acoustically amplified and
>> reflected back to your ear, at least.
>
> I'm sure the ambient noise swamps the sound of your blood by a few orders
> of magnitude. ;-)

The sound of your heartbeat can seem deafening if you spend
much time in a good anechoic chamber. I tried it in ElectroVoice's
chamber in Buchannan many years ago.



Author: Mr.T
Date: 01:28 16-07-08


"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley@xp7rt.net> wrote in message
news:6e480hF53dqtU1@mid.individual.net...
>"Rich Grise" wrote ...
>> Mr.T wrote:
>>> "Joerg" wrote
> >>> Some large Polynesian mussel shells supposedly do that. When you hold
> >>> them to your ear you hear the sounds of the sea.
> >>
> >> Or the sound of your blood flow being acoustically amplified and
> >> reflected back to your ear, at least.
> >
> > I'm sure the ambient noise swamps the sound of your blood by a few
orders
> > of magnitude. ;-)

Similar to GWB being sure Iraq had nuclear weapons capability no doubt :-)
You actually believe a sea shell stores sounds? Why only sea sounds then
after it has been far removed for years?
I think at least Joerg was joking... surely?


> The sound of your heartbeat can seem deafening if you spend
> much time in a good anechoic chamber. I tried it in ElectroVoice's
> chamber in Buchannan many years ago.

Yep, and I can hear my blood pulsing in an isolation booth, doesn't even
require a good anechoic chamber.
Of course it's the blood flow in your head you hear, not your "heartbeat".

MrT.



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