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Author: defaultDate: 19:54 06-04-08
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On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:58:03 +0100, "Ron(UK)"
<ron@lunevalleyaudio.com> wrote:
>default wrote:
>
>> A more likely outcome is to have Usenet users start filtering out all
>> posts originating from Google -
>
>I think you'll find that a great many of us already do that.
>
>Ron(UK)
I've had newsproxy in place for a month now and love it. But I would
rather not have to use it, since it (and Google) are limiting me.
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Author: John FieldsDate: 20:15 06-04-08
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On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 13:21:15 -0700 (PDT), eyezkubed@yahoo.com wrote:
>Good God man..... never thought you two would be on the same page!!!
---
Technically, I think we are, pretty much.
I have a great deal of respect for Larkin with respect to his clever
efforts at simplifying circuits and what he's managed to accomplish
with his company.
Psychologically, IMO, we differ in that John has issues which prevent
him from accepting help which is NIH.
JF
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Author: JoergDate: 20:40 06-04-08
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Hattori Hanzo wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:24:44 -0700, Joerg
> <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>> John Fields wrote:
>>>> Better yet, make it the subject and crosspost it to a few groups.
>>>
>>> I like this one: Use any search engine other than Google till they
>>> stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM
>>>
>> Good idea. Which one would be as good as Google?
>
>
> This thread should be modified into a "BOYCOTT Google Search Engine"
> thread. MAYBE if it were in the title, they might be able to see the
> thread past their blinders.
>
Done! I've switched my search default to AltaVista.
> Then, we should actually plan and execute the boycott, so they feel it
> right where it counts, and you watch how fast they get off their asses
> then.
I wish it were so. But I have seen large corporations go down the tubes
in blissful ignorance. For example, right now I am afraid another great
semiconductor manufacturer may also be headed in that direction simply
because they do not listen.
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
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Author: Hattori HanzoDate: 20:46 06-04-08
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On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:40:13 GMT, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>Hattori Hanzo wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:24:44 -0700, Joerg
>> <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>>> John Fields wrote:
>>>>> Better yet, make it the subject and crosspost it to a few groups.
>>>>
>>>> I like this one: Use any search engine other than Google till they
>>>> stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM
>>>>
>>> Good idea. Which one would be as good as Google?
>>
>>
>> This thread should be modified into a "BOYCOTT Google Search
Engine"
>> thread. MAYBE if it were in the title, they might be able to see the
>> thread past their blinders.
>>
>
>Done! I've switched my search default to AltaVista.
>
>
>> Then, we should actually plan and execute the boycott, so they feel it
>> right where it counts, and you watch how fast they get off their asses
>> then.
>
>
>I wish it were so. But I have seen large corporations go down the tubes
>in blissful ignorance. For example, right now I am afraid another great
>semiconductor manufacturer may also be headed in that direction simply
>because they do not listen.
I guess you'd better sell your stocks then.
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Author: John LarkinDate: 21:39 06-04-08
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On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:15:10 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 13:21:15 -0700 (PDT), eyezkubed@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>>Good God man..... never thought you two would be on the same page!!!
>
>---
>Technically, I think we are, pretty much.
>
>I have a great deal of respect for Larkin with respect to his clever
>efforts at simplifying circuits and what he's managed to accomplish
>with his company.
>
>Psychologically, IMO, we differ in that John has issues which prevent
>him from accepting help which is NIH.
>
>JF
Good grief, reread my posts. I often start a thread by asking for
help, parts, or advice, and I say "thanks" when I get it. I say
"oops"
when I'm wrong (which isn't often, because I'm careful about making
declarations that I'm not pretty sure about.)
And I give a lot of help, too.
If you dislike me, fine: that happens. But you're letting dislike
distort your perceptions of reality, which is a dangerous thing for
any engineer to do.
John
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Author: cliftoDate: 22:52 06-04-08
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Joerg wrote:
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>> I like this one: Use any search engine other than Google till they
>> stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM
>>
>
> Good idea. Which one would be as good as Google?
I like Gigablast.com. Not only does it do decent searching, but if you like
it has a link to invoke the same search on Google, ask.com, Yahoo or MSN.
--
$109,000,000 in income! Capitalism works GREAT for Billary...
...why does she want Marxism for us?
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Author: Meat PlowDate: 23:30 06-04-08
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On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:56:46 -0700, Hattori Hanzo wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:24:44 -0700, Joerg
> <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>
>>Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>> John Fields wrote:
>>>> Better yet, make it the subject and crosspost it to a few groups.
>>>
>>>
>>> I like this one: Use any search engine other than Google till they
>>> stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM
>>>
>>
>>Good idea. Which one would be as good as Google?
>
>
> This thread should be modified into a "BOYCOTT Google Search Engine"
> thread. MAYBE if it were in the title, they might be able to see the
> thread past their blinders.
>
> Then, we should actually plan and execute the boycott, so they feel it
> right where it counts, and you watch how fast they get off their asses
> then.
Surely you jest.
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Author: GregSDate: 09:12 07-04-08
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In article <cseoc5-022.ln1@remote.clifto.com>, clifto <clifto@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Joerg wrote:
>> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>> I like this one: Use any search engine other than Google till they
>>> stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM
>>>
>>
>> Good idea. Which one would be as good as Google?
>
>I like Gigablast.com. Not only does it do decent searching, but if you like
>it has a link to invoke the same search on Google, ask.com, Yahoo or MSN.
I was recommending Gigablast for the last year or two, but for a while they
got rid of much of their database, but it may be better now.
Some other of my recommended searches....
http://www.mamma.com/
http://www.metacrawler.com/
http://www.searchmash.com/
http://www.dogpile.com/
And yahoo and MSN have pages that Google leave out. Its
hard to keep up knowing who have the databases and who share
them. Google is rediculous finding things with so many stupid
travel and city based sites that offer nothing and get in the way of
finding things. Google has one of the most powerful searches
when you can also click on "Groups" Its like the most inportant search much of
the
time. Google Groups.
greg
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Author: Michael A. TerrellDate: 09:32 07-04-08
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GregS wrote:
>
> In article <cseoc5-022.ln1@remote.clifto.com>, clifto
<clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Joerg wrote:
> >> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> >>> I like this one: Use any search engine other than Google till they
> >>> stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM
> >>>
> >>
> >> Good idea. Which one would be as good as Google?
> >
> >I like Gigablast.com. Not only does it do decent searching, but if you like
> >it has a link to invoke the same search on Google, ask.com, Yahoo or MSN.
>
> I was recommending Gigablast for the last year or two, but for a while they
> got rid of much of their database, but it may be better now.
>
> Some other of my recommended searches....
>
> http://www.mamma.com/
>
> http://www.metacrawler.com/
>
> http://www.searchmash.com/
>
> http://www.dogpile.com/
>
> And yahoo and MSN have pages that Google leave out. Its
> hard to keep up knowing who have the databases and who share
> them. Google is rediculous finding things with so many stupid
> travel and city based sites that offer nothing and get in the way of
> finding things. Google has one of the most powerful searches
> when you can also click on "Groups" Its like the most inportant search
much of the
> time. Google Groups.
Microsoft recently threatened Yahoo with a proxy fight to take
control.
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Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
* drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.
http://improve-usenet.org/index.html
Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET
with porn and junk commercial SPAM
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Author: JittDate: 09:59 07-04-08
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In article <jkaKj.2476$iK6.1376@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net says...
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> > John Fields wrote:
> >> Better yet, make it the subject and crosspost it to a few groups.
> >
> >
> > I like this one: Use any search engine other than Google till they
> > stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM
> >
>
> Good idea. Which one would be as good as Google?
>
>
I like clusty, for the clustering: www.clusty.com .
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Author: GregSDate: 10:26 07-04-08
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In article <MPG.2263c8a3b5e9e81f989693@news.bcsupernet.com>, Jitt
<tser827@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <jkaKj.2476$iK6.1376@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
>notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net says...
>> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>> > John Fields wrote:
>> >> Better yet, make it the subject and crosspost it to a few groups.
>> >
>> >
>> > I like this one: Use any search engine other than Google till they
>> > stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM
>> >
>>
>> Good idea. Which one would be as good as Google?
>>
>>
> I like clusty, for the clustering: www.clusty.com .
I like that.
I just figured out that images must contain the search term itself, and not just be from
those web pages. I need to rename some images !
greg
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Author: JoergDate: 12:01 07-04-08
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Hattori Hanzo wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:40:13 GMT, Joerg
> <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Hattori Hanzo wrote:
>>> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:24:44 -0700, Joerg
>>> <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>>>> John Fields wrote:
>>>>>> Better yet, make it the subject and crosspost it to a few
groups.
>>>>> I like this one: Use any search engine other than Google till
they
>>>>> stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM
>>>>>
>>>> Good idea. Which one would be as good as Google?
>>>
>>> This thread should be modified into a "BOYCOTT Google Search
Engine"
>>> thread. MAYBE if it were in the title, they might be able to see the
>>> thread past their blinders.
>>>
>> Done! I've switched my search default to AltaVista.
>>
>>
>>> Then, we should actually plan and execute the boycott, so they feel it
>>> right where it counts, and you watch how fast they get off their asses
>>> then.
>>
>> I wish it were so. But I have seen large corporations go down the tubes
>> in blissful ignorance. For example, right now I am afraid another great
>> semiconductor manufacturer may also be headed in that direction simply
>> because they do not listen.
>
>
> I guess you'd better sell your stocks then.
I don't have any, and I sure won't buy any until there is a serious
management change plus some track record of applications engineering
support that actually responds to emails, personal FAE contacts and
telephone.
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
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Author: JoergDate: 12:02 07-04-08
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clifto wrote:
> Joerg wrote:
>> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>> I like this one: Use any search engine other than Google till they
>>> stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM
>>>
>> Good idea. Which one would be as good as Google?
>
> I like Gigablast.com. Not only does it do decent searching, but if you like
> it has a link to invoke the same search on Google, ask.com, Yahoo or MSN.
>
That's just the thing, I'd want it _not_ to invoke Google.
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
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Author: mikeDate: 15:23 07-04-08
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Hattori Hanzo wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:24:44 -0700, Joerg
> <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>> John Fields wrote:
>>>> Better yet, make it the subject and crosspost it to a few groups.
>>>
>>> I like this one: Use any search engine other than Google till they
>>> stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM
>>>
>> Good idea. Which one would be as good as Google?
>
>
> This thread should be modified into a "BOYCOTT Google Search Engine"
> thread. MAYBE if it were in the title, they might be able to see the
> thread past their blinders.
>
> Then, we should actually plan and execute the boycott, so they feel it
> right where it counts, and you watch how fast they get off their asses
> then.
Do the math...
# sci.electronics.design readers / Total # google users = ???
I don't have any numbers, but I bet that the ratio is nearly zero.
Not much of a boycott.
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Author: Nico CoeselDate: 18:28 07-04-08
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>John Fields wrote:
>>
>> Better yet, make it the subject and crosspost it to a few groups.
>
Why make more messages? It is better if we all complain to Google.
Even better, forward the offending messages to Google so they can ban
the users.
--
Programmeren in Almere?
E-mail naar nico@nctdevpuntnl (punt=.)
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Author: whit3rdDate: 18:37 07-04-08
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On Apr 6, 1:06=A0pm, spamb...@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:
> In article <ni1iv3lq3c3jm5jopj5e3r2jpp9nuof...@4ax.com>, John Larkin
<jjla=
r...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:40:01 -0400, Rich Webb
> ><bbew...@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:
> >>So, is it malfeasance or nonfeasance?
> Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.
The reason is well known; the Google 'captcha'
is the defense against botnets opening google accounts,
and that has been (imperfectly) cracked. In recent
weeks, the crack has resulted in a flood of bogus accounts,
which (while individually closeable) aren't well controlled by
the techniques that worked fine last month.
Google is undoubtedly detecting and closing the malicious
accounts, and will may have already updated the captcha,
but in the interim, there's a problem. If the captcha problem is
fixed
at Google, there will STILL be bogus accounts from the interregnum,
so the floodgates will only get closed by individual action on the
long tail of the problematic accounts.
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Author: cliftoDate: 19:05 07-04-08
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GregS wrote:
> In article <cseoc5-022.ln1@remote.clifto.com>, clifto
<clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
>>I like Gigablast.com. Not only does it do decent searching, but if you like
>>it has a link to invoke the same search on Google, ask.com, Yahoo or MSN.
>
> I was recommending Gigablast for the last year or two, but for a while they
> got rid of much of their database, but it may be better now.
New Beta search engine put up in recent weeks. It's an improvement.
> Some other of my recommended searches....
>
> http://www.mamma.com/
Didn't know about that one.
> http://www.searchmash.com/
That one, either.
> And yahoo and MSN have pages that Google leave out.
I quit Yahoo years ago when stuff in the first ten hits would indicate
that they would match partial without telling you, i.e. if you searched
for "car putz yup" at least one of the first ten hits would contain
car and putz but not yup; and many, many of the first hundred would do
the same.
> Its
> hard to keep up knowing who have the databases and who share
> them. Google is rediculous finding things with so many stupid
> travel and city based sites that offer nothing and get in the way of
> finding things. Google has one of the most powerful searches
> when you can also click on "Groups" Its like the most inportant search
much of the
> time. Google Groups.
Google can be great. It's too bad they seem so evil to me.
--
$109,000,000 in income! Capitalism works GREAT for Billary...
...why does she want Marxism for us?
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Author: cliftoDate: 19:07 07-04-08
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Joerg wrote:
> clifto wrote:
>> Joerg wrote:
>>> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>>> I like this one: Use any search engine other than Google till they
>>>> stop polluting USENET with porn and junk commercial SPAM
>>>>
>>> Good idea. Which one would be as good as Google?
>>
>> I like Gigablast.com. Not only does it do decent searching, but if you like
>> it has a link to invoke the same search on Google, ask.com, Yahoo or MSN.
>
> That's just the thing, I'd want it _not_ to invoke Google.
It doesn't unless you ask it to do so. You have to specifically click on the
link near the bottom of the page to get it to search Google. They do their
own search using their new, improved beta search engine which seems pretty
good so far.
--
$109,000,000 in income! Capitalism works GREAT for Billary...
...why does she want Marxism for us?
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Author: Michael A. TerrellDate: 19:41 07-04-08
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Nico Coesel wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >John Fields wrote:
> >>
> >> Better yet, make it the subject and crosspost it to a few groups.
> >
>
> Why make more messages? It is better if we all complain to Google.
> Even better, forward the offending messages to Google so they can ban
> the users.
Would you like a bridge with that? Even if Google does close an
account, the offender can sign right back up with the same name.
--
aioe.org is home to cowards and terrorists
Add this line to your news proxy nfilter.dat file
* drop Path:*aioe.org!not-for-mail to drop all aioe.org traffic.
http://improve-usenet.org/index.html
Use any search engine other than Google till they stop polluting USENET
with porn and junk commercial SPAM
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Author: GregSDate: 12:16 08-04-08
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In article <jvlqc5-mfa.ln1@remote.clifto.com>, clifto <clifto@gmail.com>
wrote:
>GregS wrote:
>> In article <cseoc5-022.ln1@remote.clifto.com>, clifto
<clifto@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>I like Gigablast.com. Not only does it do decent searching, but if you like
>>>it has a link to invoke the same search on Google, ask.com, Yahoo or MSN.
>>
>> I was recommending Gigablast for the last year or two, but for a while they
>> got rid of much of their database, but it may be better now.
>
>New Beta search engine put up in recent weeks. It's an improvement.
>
>> Some other of my recommended searches....
>>
>> http://www.mamma.com/
>
>Didn't know about that one.
>
>> http://www.searchmash.com/
>
>That one, either.
>
>> And yahoo and MSN have pages that Google leave out.
>
>I quit Yahoo years ago when stuff in the first ten hits would indicate
>that they would match partial without telling you, i.e. if you searched
>for "car putz yup" at least one of the first ten hits would contain
>car and putz but not yup; and many, many of the first hundred would do
>the same.
>
>> Its
>> hard to keep up knowing who have the databases and who share
>> them. Google is rediculous finding things with so many stupid
>> travel and city based sites that offer nothing and get in the way of
>> finding things. Google has one of the most powerful searches
>> when you can also click on "Groups" Its like the most inportant
search much
> of the
>> time. Google Groups.
>
>Google can be great. It's too bad they seem so evil to me.
I got this adware that when you clicked on one item in the Google results
would most often take you to another site. I got that fixed.
I get frustrated using Google because there are so many companies and
unnecessary links getting in the way of results on certain web pages. When
I use other engines I get to the right web page in the first 1 or 2 result pages.
Perhaps these are not really popular but they are still the ones I am looking for.
OK I use some of my web pages as search items. After years of using Google
and being listed in Google, it deleted one of my web pages for abut a year and a half.
They were there in Yahoo and others, It pissed me off.
greg
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