Author: PieterDate: 08:56 31-10-07
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On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:10:54 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>JW wrote:
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>> Eeyore wrote
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>> >Can you provide an example of any IC that has an internal crystal ?
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>> Sure:
>> http://www.maxim-ic.com/quick_view2.cfm/qv_pk/4984
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>Whilst the data sheet doesn't make it obvious, that's a HYBRID, not an IC.
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>Graham
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So what? The point is that some parts have internal oscillators, not
just the inverters etc for external crystals, resonators or RC's.
Microchip etc.
Pieter
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Author: EeyoreDate: 10:36 31-10-07
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Pieter wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> >JW wrote:
> >> Eeyore wrote
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> >> >Can you provide an example of any IC that has an internal crystal ?
> >>
> >> Sure:
> >> http://www.maxim-ic.com/quick_view2.cfm/qv_pk/4984
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> >Whilst the data sheet doesn't make it obvious, that's a HYBRID, not an IC.
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> So what?
It's not an **IC**.
> The point is that some parts have internal oscillators, not
> just the inverters etc for external crystals, resonators or RC's.
> Microchip etc.
Yes I know about internal RC oscillators. You were talking about crystal
oscillators. There is NO microprocessor or microcontroller with an internal
crystal oscillator so why did you feel the need to introduce a complete
irrelevancy ?
Graham
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Author: PieterDate: 07:26 01-11-07
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On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:35:27 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Pieter wrote:
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>> Eeyore wrote:
>> >Pieter wrote:
>> >> Eeyore wrote:
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>> >> >> The 8051 does not have an internal oscillator.
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>> >> >What do you mean ? It has an inverter stage designed for clock
oscillator use
>> >> >connected to pins xtal1 and xtal2.
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>> >>
>> >> No internal crystal. It has the inverter etc, but always needs an
>> >> external crystal. Of course you can also feed it with an external
>> >> oscillator.
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>> >Can you provide an example of any IC that has an internal crystal ?
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>> I wrote that it does NOT have an internal crystal, like most other
>> parts. But the 8051 also has no internal RC oscillator. It needs
>> external parts.
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>It has the required internal active parts for either a crystal or ceramic resonator
>clock oscillator. That's all that matters.
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>The OP has no interest in hypothetical RC oscillators that don't exist in standard
>8051s. Stop talking rubbish.
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>Graham
Follow you own advice and stay away here. Go troll elsewhere.
Pieter
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Author: John FieldsDate: 09:28 01-11-07
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On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:36:58 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Jamie wrote:
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>> Eeyore wrote:
>> > Pieter wrote:
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>> >>Check the decoupling capacitors.
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>> > I'd love to know how he's going to CHECK capacitors ! You certainly say
some
>> > daft things.
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>> > He might REPLACE any supply decoupling caps that are electrolytic types
for
>> > sure. Age is likely to have taken their toll on them.
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>> Oh, I see it's ok now to use the phrase "Decoupling cap"
>> you back pedaling turd.
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>A decoupling cap is the correct name for caps used across the power supply.
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Strictly speaking, that's not so.
A decoupling cap is usually placed across the power supply terminals
of a _load_ in order to decouple it from any perturbations in the
voltage across it caused by, primarily, wiring inductance between
the load and the power supply proper.
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>The output cap of an amplifier is another matter entirely you jumped-up stupid jerk.
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Well, it _does_ keep DC from coupling into the load, therefore it's
a decoupling capacitor as well as a coupling capacitor. It just
depends on how you look at it, you dumbass name-calling moron twat.
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JF
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Author: EeyoreDate: 13:12 01-11-07
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Pieter wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> >Pieter wrote:
> >> Eeyore wrote:
> >> >Pieter wrote:
> >> >> Eeyore wrote:
> >> >> >Pieter wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> The 8051 does not have an internal oscillator.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >What do you mean ? It has an inverter stage designed for
clock oscillator use
> >> >> >connected to pins xtal1 and xtal2.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> No internal crystal. It has the inverter etc, but always needs an
> >> >> external crystal. Of course you can also feed it with an external
> >> >> oscillator.
> >> >
> >> >Can you provide an example of any IC that has an internal crystal ?
> >>
> >>
> >> I wrote that it does NOT have an internal crystal, like most other
> >> parts. But the 8051 also has no internal RC oscillator. It needs
> >> external parts.
> >
> >It has the required internal active parts for either a crystal or ceramic
resonator
> >clock oscillator. That's all that matters.
> >
> >The OP has no interest in hypothetical RC oscillators that don't exist in
standard
> >8051s. Stop talking rubbish.
>
>
> Follow you own advice and stay away here. Go troll elsewhere.
Go screw yourself.
You have offered the sum total of ZERO useful advice in this thread.
You're a pontificating nitwit.
Graham
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Author: JamieDate: 21:55 01-11-07
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Eeyore wrote:
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> Pieter wrote:
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>>Eeyore wrote:
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>>>It has the required internal active parts for either a crystal or ceramic
resonator
>>>clock oscillator. That's all that matters.
>>>
>>>The OP has no interest in hypothetical RC oscillators that don't exist in
standard
>>>8051s. Stop talking rubbish.
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>>Follow you own advice and stay away here. Go troll elsewhere.
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> Go screw yourself.
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> You have offered the sum total of ZERO useful advice in this thread.
LOL, now that's a laugh..
Any thing that you have ever offered was just retakes of what was
already stated here by others. You have a way of slipping it in later
on. Any one that monitors this group on the regular bases knows what
i'm talking about.
> You're a pontificating nitwit.
Hats off to you sir!
> Graham
--
"I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken"
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
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Author: EeyoreDate: 23:23 01-11-07
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Jamie wrote:
> Any one that monitors this group on the regular bases knows what
> i'm talking about.
They know you're an idiot who doesn't even know what a coupling cap is.
Graham
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Author: Daniel MandicDate: 06:58 02-11-07
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Jamie wrote:
> Hats off to you sir!
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> > Graham
Sir!
Maybe that's so with you, where one clepes sir to the other, and he
pulls out the sh.. from you and pulls it in his face.
We say Sir here...
Best regards,
Daniel Mandic
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Author: Michael A. TerrellDate: 15:32 02-11-07
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Eeyore wrote:
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> Jamie wrote:
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> > Any one that monitors this group on the regular bases knows what
> > i'm talking about.
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> They know you're an idiot who doesn't even know what a coupling cap is.
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> Graham
They know that you're an anal retantive ass with a telephone pole
stuck up your ass to replace your backbone.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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Author: JamieDate: 19:10 02-11-07
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Eeyore wrote:
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> Jamie wrote:
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>>Any one that monitors this group on the regular bases knows what
>>i'm talking about.
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> They know you're an idiot who doesn't even know what a coupling cap is.
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> Graham
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As I said before.. In so many laymen terms.
"You don't know jack"
--
"I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken"
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
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Author: JamieDate: 19:11 02-11-07
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Daniel Mandic wrote:
> Jamie wrote:
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>>Hats off to you sir!
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>>>Graham
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> Sir!
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> Maybe that's so with you, where one clepes sir to the other, and he
> pulls out the sh.. from you and pulls it in his face.
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> We say Sir here...
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> Best regards,
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> Daniel Mandic
Hmm, Not sure how to interpret that :)
--
"I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken"
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
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Author: EeyoreDate: 20:49 02-11-07
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Jamie wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > Jamie wrote:
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> >>Any one that monitors this group on the regular bases knows what
> >>i'm talking about.
> >
> >
> > They know you're an idiot who doesn't even know what a coupling cap is.
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> As I said before.. In so many laymen terms.
> "You don't know jack"
Piss off, you ignorant twit.
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Author: JamieDate: 21:55 02-11-07
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Eeyore wrote:
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> Jamie wrote:
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>>Eeyore wrote:
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>>>Jamie wrote:
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>>>>Any one that monitors this group on the regular bases knows what
>>>>i'm talking about.
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>>>They know you're an idiot who doesn't even know what a coupling cap is.
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>> As I said before.. In so many laymen terms.
>>"You don't know jack"
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> Piss off, you ignorant twit.
>
Well, it's better to be pissed off than pissed on!
Or, Maybe you like that kinky stuff?
--
"I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken"
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
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Author: Daniel MandicDate: 08:12 03-11-07
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Jamie wrote:
> Well, it's better to be pissed off than pissed on!
> Or, Maybe you like that kinky stuff?
hello?
--
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Author: Daniel MandicDate: 08:13 03-11-07
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Jamie wrote:
> Hmm, Not sure how to interpret that :)
Private Paula! :-))))
I didn't know you can staple shit so high.
--
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Author: JamieDate: 19:22 03-11-07
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Daniel Mandic wrote:
> Jamie wrote:
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>>Hmm, Not sure how to interpret that :)
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> Private Paula! :-))))
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> I didn't know you can staple shit so high.
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You really should examine the translation.
--
"I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken"
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
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