Author: Rich WebbDate: 18:51 27-09-06
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On 27 Sep 2006 15:16:45 -0700, mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>I think you're right. ATmega8. For about the price of a Six Dollar
>Burger at Carl's.
Also strongly recommend that you consider getting Atmel's AVRISP
programmer. When you're just starting out there are SO many things that
could go wrong it's comforting to have confidence that the programmer
and its driver (AVR Studio) are off-the-shelf parts and are blessed by
the manufacturer, and so therefore slightly less likely to be the source
of whichever problem is occurring.
For example, new ATmega8 chips come from the factory set to use the
internal RC oscillator. Odds are pretty good that you'll forget to burn
the fuse that switches the clock to use an external crystal or clock
generator [not that *I* have EVER forgotten to do that <grumble>] and
end up with a chip that kinda-sorta works but that won't talk to the PC.
Lots of other things can go wrong that cause similar symptoms. Do
yourself a favor and start off with one fewer ...
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
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Author: Michael A. TerrellDate: 18:57 27-09-06
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mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I think you're right. ATmega8. For about the price of a Six Dollar
> Burger at Carl's.
Where?
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
> > I think you're right. ATmega8. For about the price of a Six Dollar
> > Burger at Carl's.
>
>
> Where?
Where? Wha'dya mean?
If you meant Carl's... Carl's Jr. Hamburger joint. Burgers start at
about $3.99 (at least in California).
If you meant the chip...
Digikey: ATMEGA8-16PC: $3.66
Jameco: ATMEGA8-16PI: $5.05 (ok, maybe that's a burger with fries and
the Coke :)
Michael
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Author: BobGDate: 20:03 27-09-06
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Read the forum at avrfreaks.net for an hour. There is an online book at
smileymicros.com that describes using the winavr gcc c compiler (free!)
and the atmel butterfly eval board (about $20)
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Author: Michael A. TerrellDate: 22:52 27-09-06
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mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> > mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I think you're right. ATmega8. For about the price of a Six Dollar
> > > Burger at Carl's.
> >
> >
> > Where?
>
> Where? Wha'dya mean?
>
> If you meant Carl's... Carl's Jr. Hamburger joint. Burgers start at
> about $3.99 (at least in California).
Must be a regional chain. None around here.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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linnix wrote:
-=snip=-
> > Looks like the AT90USB128 is about $14 from Digikey. A (Texas
> > Instruments!) MAX232 is about $0.90. For a beginner, I think I'll
> > stick with RS-232. (Should be easier to write the software for the PC
> > side too.)
>
> We won't be buying that much, but the qty 10K price is $2 to $3.
Just curious, where? Digikey wants $9.55 ea, qty 100.
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> > > mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I think you're right. ATmega8. For about the price of a Six Dollar
> > > > Burger at Carl's.
> > >
> > >
> > > Where?
> >
> > Where? Wha'dya mean?
> >
> > If you meant Carl's... Carl's Jr. Hamburger joint. Burgers start at
> > about $3.99 (at least in California).
>
>
> Must be a regional chain. None around here.
>
>
Wow, you're right!
http://cke.know-where.com/carlsjr/
Well, here's their website: http://www.carlsjr.com/info/map
(their main site has a whole lot of Flash, just a heads-up.)
Michael
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linnix wrote:
-=snip=-
> > Looks like the AT90USB128 is about $14 from Digikey. A (Texas
> > Instruments!) MAX232 is about $0.90. For a beginner, I think I'll
> > stick with RS-232. (Should be easier to write the software for the PC
> > side too.)
>
> We won't be buying that much, but the qty 10K price is $2 to $3.
Just curious, where? Digikey wants $9.55 ea, qty 100.
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> > > mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I think you're right. ATmega8. For about the price of a Six Dollar
> > > > Burger at Carl's.
> > >
> > >
> > > Where?
> >
> > Where? Wha'dya mean?
> >
> > If you meant Carl's... Carl's Jr. Hamburger joint. Burgers start at
> > about $3.99 (at least in California).
>
>
> Must be a regional chain. None around here.
>
>
Wow, you're right!
http://cke.know-where.com/carlsjr/
Well, here's their website: http://www.carlsjr.com/info/map
(their main site has a whole lot of Flash, just a heads-up.)
Michael
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Author: jasenDate: 04:19 28-09-06
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On 2006-09-26, mrdarrett@gmail.com <mrdarrett@gmail.com> wrote:
> And what's the difference, anyway, between the AVR and the ATxxxxxxxx
> series of chips?
AVR is a subset of the AT- series
(AT- indicates ATMEL, AVR is some of their products)
AT90- ATTiny- and ATMega- are the AVR parts,
Bye.
Jasen
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In sci.electronics.design jrwalliker@gmail.com wrote:
>The latest version of Atmel's AVR development environment works
>together with winavr. This means that you can write a C program and
>single-step it in the simulator, watching register, memory and i/o port
>values.
>One thing to watch out for if you use a serial in-circuit programmer -
>it is easy to lock yourself out of the device by setting the fuses
>incorrectly.
>In particular, setting the watchdog timer to "continuous" prevents
>reprogramming of the device or even the watchdog fuse!
What's the remedy for such situation ..?
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Author: Michael A. TerrellDate: 09:19 28-09-06
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mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Wow, you're right!
>
> http://cke.know-where.com/carlsjr/
>
> Well, here's their website: http://www.carlsjr.com/info/map
> (their main site has a whole lot of Flash, just a heads-up.)
>
> Michael
Around here you get hammered with ads for the two biggies,
McDonald's, and Burger King, along with VERY annoying commercials from
Checkers. http://www.checkers.com/find.html They are so annoying I
either hit the mute button, or turn the TV off.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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Author: martin.shoebridgeDate: 09:28 28-09-06
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<pbdelete@spamnuke.ludd.luthdelete.se.invalid> wrote in message
news:451bb260$0$492$cc7c7865@news.luth.se...
> In sci.electronics.design jrwalliker@gmail.com wrote:
>>The latest version of Atmel's AVR development environment works
>>together with winavr. This means that you can write a C program and
>>single-step it in the simulator, watching register, memory and i/o port
>>values.
>
>>One thing to watch out for if you use a serial in-circuit programmer -
>>it is easy to lock yourself out of the device by setting the fuses
>>incorrectly.
>
>>In particular, setting the watchdog timer to "continuous" prevents
>>reprogramming of the device or even the watchdog fuse!
>
> What's the remedy for such situation ..?
>
You have to use a parallel programmer to effect an "all fuses" reset........
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Wow, you're right!
> >
> > http://cke.know-where.com/carlsjr/
> >
> > Well, here's their website: http://www.carlsjr.com/info/map
> > (their main site has a whole lot of Flash, just a heads-up.)
> >
> > Michael
>
>
> Around here you get hammered with ads for the two biggies,
> McDonald's, and Burger King, along with VERY annoying commercials from
> Checkers. http://www.checkers.com/find.html They are so annoying I
> either hit the mute button, or turn the TV off.
Checkers, huh? Don't have those over here. Your Checkers seems really
similar to our In-N-Outs over here. (In the Los Angeles area, the
In-N-Outs are mostly drive-thru, no dine-in; in Northern California,
there's usually a dine-in area like McDonalds, Burger King, etc.)
Any Wendy's, In-N-Out, or Jack-In-The Box over there?
Michael
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Author: Michael A. TerrellDate: 16:39 28-09-06
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mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> > mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Wow, you're right!
> > >
> > > http://cke.know-where.com/carlsjr/
> > >
> > > Well, here's their website: http://www.carlsjr.com/info/map
> > > (their main site has a whole lot of Flash, just a heads-up.)
> > >
> > > Michael
> >
> >
> > Around here you get hammered with ads for the two biggies,
> > McDonald's, and Burger King, along with VERY annoying commercials from
> > Checkers. http://www.checkers.com/find.html They are so annoying I
> > either hit the mute button, or turn the TV off.
>
> Checkers, huh? Don't have those over here. Your Checkers seems really
> similar to our In-N-Outs over here. (In the Los Angeles area, the
> In-N-Outs are mostly drive-thru, no dine-in; in Northern California,
> there's usually a dine-in area like McDonalds, Burger King, etc.)
>
> Any Wendy's, In-N-Out, or Jack-In-The Box over there?
>
> Michael
Some Wendy's. It started in Ohio, and we get a lot of Ohio
snowbirds, so...
BTW, one of the young men who volunteers for my "Computers for
Disabled Veterans" project works at a Wendy's restaurant. He does the
heavy lifting, and I'm teaching him to repair computers.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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Author: Adrian JansenDate: 18:15 28-09-06
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mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
> ... for a beginner?
>
> And what's the difference, anyway, between the AVR and the ATxxxxxxxx
> series of chips?
>
> TIA
>
> Michael
>
Have a look at
http://www.avr-asm-tutorial.net/avr_en/beginner/index.html
That give most of the startup details.
--
Regards,
Adrian Jansen adrianjansen at internode dot on dot net
Design Engineer J & K Micro Systems
Microcomputer solutions for industrial control
Note reply address is invalid, convert address above to machine form.
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Author: JeffMDate: 21:31 28-09-06
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Author: Michael A. TerrellDate: 22:07 28-09-06
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JeffM wrote:
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> mrdarrett@ gmail.com wrote:
> >>Carl's Jr. Hamburger joint.
> >
> Michael A. Terrell
> >Must be a regional chain.
> >
> Chain: yup. Parent corp: Nope.
>
> >None around here.
> >
> They don't want to be in competition with themselves:
>
http://www.google.com/search?q=Carl-Karcher-Enterprises+including+Hardee's+Green-Burrito+c
hains
The only Hardee's around here closed without notice several years
ago. The employees arrived for work to find the locks changed, and the
place is still sitting empty. I haven't seen an ad on TV for them for
years, either.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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Author: electronic-eng.comDate: 06:18 29-09-06
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