Author: EeyoreDate: 00:07 29-09-07
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Al in Dallas wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> >"Green Xenon [Radium]" wrote:
> >> Don Bowey wrote:
> >>
> >> > Your answer is here..... Google for "tted directive"
> >> >
> >> > Include the quote marks.
> >>
> >> Did exactly that.
> >>
> >>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22tted+directive%22+&btnG=Google+Search
> >>
> >> No results
> >
> >That's because you're such an IDIOT, you can't even use google properly.
>
> Looks like Bowey's error this time.
Google helpfully offers you this option ....
Did you mean: "tte directive"
Which delivers the required results.
How Radium could fail to see that is beyond my comprehension. Then again he seems
incapable of thinking for himself and wants to be spoon-fed.
Graham
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Author: Green Xenon [Radium]Date: 00:12 29-09-07
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Don Bowey wrote:
> On 9/28/07 6:45 PM, in article 46fdabe3$0$7455$4c368faf@roadrunner.com,
> "Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
>>If EDTN stood for ³European Deaf Telephone Network², then my search
>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22European+Deaf+Telephone+Network%22&a
mp;btn
>>G=Google+Search
>>would describe how EDTN works and provide me with EDTN numbers which I
>>could dial so I could listen to EDTN tones from Switzerland!!!!!!!!!!
> Why do you think that?
Because usually it would. Not always but usually.
>>Sadly, EDTN does not stand for ³European Deaf Telephone
>>Network² when relating to textphone terminology.
> No, but I found a good reference to European Deaf Telephone (EDT).
Thanks but I already know about EDT. What does EDTN stand for?
>>Dial 1-800-543-1586 and you'll hear the American TDD tones I am talking
>>about. This is an example of a TDD number used in the United States. I
>>want to hear the Swiss-equivalent of TDD.
> According to what I found, the Swiss use the ETN protocol of V.18. Here is
> a list you might want:
>
> € Baudot @ 45.45 baud (U.S. TTYs)
> € Baudot @ 50 baud (used in England, Australia, and some other
> countries; also known as "international" Baudot)
> € V.21/text telephone version (used in Sweden, Norway, and Finland).
> € DTMF (used in Denmark, Holland, and some other countries)
> € EDT ("European Deaf Telephone," used in Germany, Austria,
> Switzerland, and several other countries)
Thanks but I already knew all of the above. I would like to know what
EDTN stands for. Why does a simple question have to get so complicated?
>>What modulation scheme does EDTN use? FSK? QAM? Something else? What?
>
>
> If you would apply yourself, you could know all.......
>
> Maybe you should look for a terminal program that is compatible with the
> protocols in the list. Then you could listen to them all you wish. Just
> don't come back here asking us to find it for you.
I've tried asking www.madsci.org which always rejects my EDTN questions.
I've also tried asking www.allexperts.com which often respond with "This
is out of my expertise".
After doing my own toilsome research and even asking those so-called
"experts", I am still not able to find what the EDTN acronym stands for.
This is why my posts are not so polite.
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Author: Don BoweyDate: 01:39 29-09-07
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On 9/28/07 9:12 PM, in article 46fdce2c$0$32511$4c368faf@roadrunner.com,
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
> Don Bowey wrote:
>
>> On 9/28/07 6:45 PM, in article 46fdabe3$0$7455$4c368faf@roadrunner.com,
>> "Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
>
>>> If EDTN stood for ÑEuropean Deaf Telephone NetworkÇ, then my search
>>>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22European+Deaf+Telephone+Network%22&b
>>> tn
>>> G=Google+Search
>>> would describe how EDTN works and provide me with EDTN numbers which I
>>> could dial so I could listen to EDTN tones from Switzerland!!!!!!!!!!
>
>> Why do you think that?
>
> Because usually it would. Not always but usually.
>
>>> Sadly, EDTN does not stand for ÑEuropean Deaf Telephone
>>> NetworkÇ when relating to textphone terminology.
>
>> No, but I found a good reference to European Deaf Telephone (EDT).
>
> Thanks but I already know about EDT. What does EDTN stand for?
>
>>> Dial 1-800-543-1586 and you'll hear the American TDD tones I am talking
>>> about. This is an example of a TDD number used in the United States. I
>>> want to hear the Swiss-equivalent of TDD.
>
>> According to what I found, the Swiss use the ETN protocol of V.18. Here is
>> a list you might want:
>>
>> ú Baudot @ 45.45 baud (U.S. TTYs)
>> ú Baudot @ 50 baud (used in England, Australia, and some other
>> countries; also known as "international" Baudot)
>> ú V.21/text telephone version (used in Sweden, Norway, and Finland).
>> ú DTMF (used in Denmark, Holland, and some other countries)
>> ú EDT ("European Deaf Telephone," used in Germany, Austria,
>> Switzerland, and several other countries)
>
> Thanks but I already knew all of the above. I would like to know what
> EDTN stands for. Why does a simple question have to get so complicated?
>
>>> What modulation scheme does EDTN use? FSK? QAM? Something else? What?
Why are you still asking this, when you now say all you want to know is the
meaning of EDTN? You have been given the essential parts to know the
answers.
>>
>>
>> If you would apply yourself, you could know all.......
>>
>> Maybe you should look for a terminal program that is compatible with the
>> protocols in the list. Then you could listen to them all you wish. Just
>> don't come back here asking us to find it for you.
>
> I've tried asking www.madsci.org which always rejects my EDTN questions.
> I've also tried asking www.allexperts.com which often respond with "This
> is out of my expertise".
>
> After doing my own toilsome research and even asking those so-called
> "experts", I am still not able to find what the EDTN acronym stands for.
Perhaps it is because you want the answer to be phrased a certain way, and
you are unwilling to see it in it's parts.
>
> This is why my posts are not so polite.
That is a poor excuse. I asked a doctor friend about AS..... It should be
within your ability to control yourself better.
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Author: Green Xenon [Radium]Date: 02:16 29-09-07
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Don Bowey wrote:
> On 9/28/07 9:12 PM, in article 46fdce2c$0$32511$4c368faf@roadrunner.com,
> "Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Don Bowey wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On 9/28/07 6:45 PM, in article 46fdabe3$0$7455$4c368faf@roadrunner.com,
>>>"Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>If EDTN stood for ÑEuropean Deaf Telephone NetworkÇ, then my search
>>>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22European+Deaf+Telephone+Netw
ork%22&b
>>>>tn
>>>>G=Google+Search
>>>>would describe how EDTN works and provide me with EDTN numbers which I
>>>>could dial so I could listen to EDTN tones from Switzerland!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>>Why do you think that?
>>
>>Because usually it would. Not always but usually.
>>
>>
>>>>Sadly, EDTN does not stand for ÑEuropean Deaf Telephone
>>>>NetworkÇ when relating to textphone terminology.
>>
>>>No, but I found a good reference to European Deaf Telephone (EDT).
>>
>>Thanks but I already know about EDT. What does EDTN stand for?
>>
>>
>>>>Dial 1-800-543-1586 and you'll hear the American TDD tones I am talking
>>>>about. This is an example of a TDD number used in the United States. I
>>>>want to hear the Swiss-equivalent of TDD.
>>
>>>According to what I found, the Swiss use the ETN protocol of V.18. Here is
>>>a list you might want:
>>>
>>> ú Baudot @ 45.45 baud (U.S. TTYs)
>>> ú Baudot @ 50 baud (used in England, Australia, and some other
>>> countries; also known as "international" Baudot)
>>> ú V.21/text telephone version (used in Sweden, Norway, and Finland).
>>> ú DTMF (used in Denmark, Holland, and some other countries)
>>> ú EDT ("European Deaf Telephone," used in Germany, Austria,
>>> Switzerland, and several other countries)
>>
>>Thanks but I already knew all of the above. I would like to know what
>>EDTN stands for. Why does a simple question have to get so complicated?
>>
>>
>>>>What modulation scheme does EDTN use? FSK? QAM? Something else? What?
> Why are you still asking this,
I am not.
> when you now say all you want to know is the
> meaning of EDTN? You have been given the essential parts to know the
> answers.
No I haven't been given the essential parts.
>>>
>>>If you would apply yourself, you could know all.......
>>>
>>>Maybe you should look for a terminal program that is compatible with the
>>>protocols in the list. Then you could listen to them all you wish. Just
>>>don't come back here asking us to find it for you.
>>
>>I've tried asking www.madsci.org which always rejects my EDTN questions.
>>I've also tried asking www.allexperts.com which often respond with "This
>>is out of my expertise".
>>
>>After doing my own toilsome research and even asking those so-called
>>"experts", I am still not able to find what the EDTN acronym stands
for.
> Perhaps it is because you want the answer to be phrased a certain way, and
> you are unwilling to see it in it's parts.
I strongly doubt that. I think the answer is there somewhere [1 out of
10-the-power-10-billion places] but it is extremely difficult to find
because there aren't enough sources to make this answer readily
available. This due to the fact that I am one of the extremely small
minorities of the human population who is actually-interested in EDTN.
The majority simply don't care.
Or [and equally anger-causing for me], the EDTN is a company secret.
Those sick f--ks who make up the company that designed EDTN want to keep
EDTN classified so that no regular person knows about what it "codes"
for or how it works.
I suspect it's probably something that company is going to keep secret
from us. Sick f---scums.
Usually with protocols like EDTN -- where there isn't much info, I might
suspect that someone [or a lot of someones] is/are attempting to cover
up a type of technology.
I then get extremely curious angry and want to forcibly get information
as to how what the EDTN stands for and how it works and possible EDTN
phone numbers. I want to torture the designers -- into providing me the
information. Its only human nature to want something you know you can't
have.
I am so upset now that I want to find whoever designed EDTN and force
them [at oxy-acetylene-blowtorch point] to provide me with information
regarding what EDTN stands for [in relation to textphones], technical
specs of EDTN, and EDTN phones numbers of Switzerland. If they refuse,
I'd like to scorch their skins until they are white and foamy like the
foam produce by heating Parmasen cheese to sizzling point.
>>This is why my posts are not so polite.
>
>
> That is a poor excuse. I asked a doctor friend about AS..... It should be
> within your ability to control yourself better.
This ain't much -- if anything -- to do with AS. I was just in an
extremely bad mood.
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Author: Richard DobsonDate: 07:25 29-09-07
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Try this:
http://www.access-board.gov/telecomm/marketrep/appendices/v18.htm
Scroll down far enough and you will find "Annex C -- EDT Operational Mode".
The trick seems to be to search not on "EDTN" but on ITU and "V.18".
Also V.21.
It in unlikely that anyone has posted recordings of ring tones on the
net, as it would probably never occur to anyone to do that. So it may
well be that you will yourself be the one to do that (assuming it
doesn't contravene any legal stuff), and fill a major gap in web provision!
This page:
http://www.hearinglossweb.com/res/hlorg/tdi/cn/2003/itu_stdsc.htm
indicates EDT is only used in Germany and Italy; which might explain why
references on English-language pages are so hard to find; and why most
people on these lists (!) don't know much about it either, but are happy
to waste time and bandwidth displaying theier rudeness styles in public.
So don't imagine for one second that anyone on these lists will be
prepared to explain any of the jargon on these and other pages. Best to
find some real physical person you can talk to about over a cup of tea
or something. So it will depend where you are in the real world.
Gallaudet University seems to be a specialist in this area:
http://tap.gallaudet.edu/
See for example on that site:
http://tap.gallaudet.edu/Standards/ivr/TNixonslides.asp
This document also turned up:
epubl.ltu.se/1402-1617/2005/173/LTU-EX-05173-SE.pdf
It has 77 references to "EDT".
So it may well supply rather more than you wanted to know!
Richard Dobson
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Author: Jerry AvinsDate: 08:50 29-09-07
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Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
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> This is why my posts are not so polite.
Awww! Poor baby!
Jerry
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Author: Jerry AvinsDate: 08:54 29-09-07
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Don Bowey wrote:
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> That is a poor excuse. I asked a doctor friend about AS..... It should be
> within your ability to control yourself better.
It should have been within my grandson's ability to cut up his own food
at age ten. He had to be taught and shown that it was.
Jerry
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Author: Green Xenon [Radium]Date: 18:37 29-09-07
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Richard Dobson wrote:
> Try this:
>
> http://www.access-board.gov/telecomm/marketrep/appendices/v18.htm
>
>
> Scroll down far enough and you will find "Annex C -- EDT Operational
Mode".
Thanks but I already read that same stuff on another website.
> The trick seems to be to search not on "EDTN" but on ITU and
"V.18".
> Also V.21.
> This page:
>
> http://www.hearinglossweb.com/res/hlorg/tdi/cn/2003/itu_stdsc.htm
>
> indicates EDT is only used in Germany and Italy; which might explain why
> references on English-language pages are so hard to find; and why most
> people on these lists (!) don't know much about it either, but are happy
> to waste time and bandwidth displaying theier rudeness styles in public.
>
> So don't imagine for one second that anyone on these lists will be
> prepared to explain any of the jargon on these and other pages. Best to
> find some real physical person you can talk to about over a cup of tea
> or something. So it will depend where you are in the real world.
The sick f--ks on those lists want interested individuals like me to
suffer.
Anyways, EDT is also used in Switzerland.
> Gallaudet University seems to be a specialist in this area:
> http://tap.gallaudet.edu/
>
> See for example on that site:
>
> http://tap.gallaudet.edu/Standards/ivr/TNixonslides.asp
>
> This document also turned up:
>
> epubl.ltu.se/1402-1617/2005/173/LTU-EX-05173-SE.pdf
>
> It has 77 references to "EDT".
>
> So it may well supply rather more than you wanted to know!
Do you think Gallaudet University will answer my question as to what
EDTN stands for?
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Author: Richard DobsonDate: 19:58 29-09-07
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Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>
> Do you think Gallaudet University will answer my question as to what
> EDTN stands for?
No idea. Find a contact there and ask them directly. I never even heard
of them before I did that search. As far as I can see, EDT and EDTN are
in effect synonyms. EDTN seems to be the term provided to users in
consumer equipment blurb (maybe four letters is cool, three is uncool).
Seems to me that once you have got all the info you can about EDT, you
will find you have it for EDTN as well.
Richard Dobson
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Author: Green Xenon [Radium]Date: 22:53 28-10-07
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Richard Dobson wrote:
> Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>
>>
>> Do you think Gallaudet University will answer my question as to what
>> EDTN stands for?
>
>
> No idea. Find a contact there and ask them directly. I never even heard
> of them before I did that search. As far as I can see, EDT and EDTN are
> in effect synonyms. EDTN seems to be the term provided to users in
> consumer equipment blurb (maybe four letters is cool, three is uncool).
> Seems to me that once you have got all the info you can about EDT, you
> will find you have it for EDTN as well.
>
> Richard Dobson
I contacted them almost a month ago. I still haven't gotten any answerns
on EDTN!
Also, for this past month I've dedicated my research to finding what
EDTN stands
for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still haven't found s--t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF is going on here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quotes from http://www.teletec.co.uk/minicoms/uniphone.php :
"Baudot, CCITT and EDTN codes"
WTF does this EDTN stand for??????????!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
It's so f-------------king frustrating when I've worked your @$$ off
trying to find out what EDTN stands for in terms of
textphones/telephones and still haven't found out what that stubborn
acronym stands for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think the answer is there somewhere [1 out of
10-the-power-10-billion places] but it is extremely difficult to find
because there aren't enough sources to make this answer readily
available. This due to the fact that I am one of the extremely small
minorities of the human population who is actually-interested in EDTN.
The majority simply don't care.
Or [and equally anger-causing for me], the EDTN is a company secret.
Those sick f--ks who make up the company that designed EDTN want to keep
EDTN classified so that no regular person knows about what it "codes"
for or how it works.
I suspect it's probably something that company is going to keep secret
from us. Sick f---scums.
Usually with protocols like EDTN -- where there isn't much info, I might
suspect that someone [or a lot of someones] is/are attempting to cover
up a type of technology.
I then get extremely curious angry and want to forcibly get information
as to how what the EDTN stands for and how it works and possible EDTN
phone numbers. I want to torture the designers -- into providing me the
information. Its only human nature to want something you know you can't
have.
I am so upset now that I want to find whoever designed EDTN and force
them [at oxy-acetylene-blowtorch point] to provide me with information
regarding what EDTN stands for [in relation to textphones], technical
specs of EDTN, and EDTN phones numbers of Switzerland. If they refuse,
I'd like to scorch their skins until they are white and foamy like the
foam produce by heating Parmasen cheese to sizzling point.
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Author: Green Xenon [Radium]Date: 23:07 28-10-07
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Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
> It's so f-------------king frustrating when I've worked your @$$ off
My @$$ not yours!!!! Sorry!!!!!!!! F---king typos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Author: Jerry AvinsDate: 00:05 29-10-07
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Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
> Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>
>> It's so f-------------king frustrating when I've worked your @$$ off
>
> My @$$ not yours!!!! Sorry!!!!!!!! F---king typos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take your meds and stay away until they've had time to have an effect.
--
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Author: Randy YatesDate: 00:34 29-10-07
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Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> writes:
> Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>> Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>>
>>> It's so f-------------king frustrating when I've worked your @$$
>>> off
>>
>> My @$$ not yours!!!! Sorry!!!!!!!! F---king typos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Take your meds and stay away until they've had time to have an effect.
I've been using usenet for 15 years and this may be the first time I
actually take the effort to learn how to kill-file someone.
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%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % is say I'm sorry,
%%% 919-577-9882 % that's the way it goes..."
%%%% <yates@ieee.org> % Getting To The Point', *Balance of Power*, ELO
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Author: Don BoweyDate: 01:14 29-10-07
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On 10/28/07 7:53 PM, in article 472548a5$0$32524$4c368faf@roadrunner.com,
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
(snip)
Yes, the answer is out there and it can be "determined." I found it and so
can you. Think research.
Learn to seek what you want instead of brow-beating others to do it for you.
Whining won't help either.
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Author: Don BoweyDate: 01:16 29-10-07
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On 10/28/07 8:07 PM, in article 47254be7$0$19656$4c368faf@roadrunner.com,
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
> Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>
>> It's so f-------------king frustrating when I've worked your @$$ off
>
> My @$$ not yours!!!! Sorry!!!!!!!! F---king typos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
You were correct the first time.
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Author: Green Xenon [Radium]Date: 01:45 29-10-07
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Don Bowey wrote:
> Yes, the answer is out there and it can be "determined." I found it and
so
> can you. Think research.
Really? You found it? Then please tell me what EDTN stands for before I
go insane and continually dream about burning-to-death those who
designed EDTN and formed that acronym.
> Learn to seek what you want instead of brow-beating others to do it for you.
> Whining won't help either.
I am not demanded that others do my work for me. If I could find the
answer, I wouldn't be posting in the 1st place. However, despite my hard
toilsome efforts, I still found one hint of what EDTN means. So please
inform me. If you don't, then I will keep have dreams of taking revenge
against whoever formed the EDTN acrnomyn only to wake up and realize
that the culprit it still out there teasing me like a mean schoolyard bully.
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Author: Green Xenon [Radium]Date: 01:47 29-10-07
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Jerry Avins wrote:
> Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>
>> Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>>
>>> It's so f-------------king frustrating when I've worked your @$$ off
>>
>>
>> My @$$ not yours!!!! Sorry!!!!!!!! F---king typos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> Take your meds and stay away until they've had time to have an effect.
>
If you accidentaly posted something that embarassing, you'd be as upset
as I am and try to let others know you didn't mean to write it.
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Author: Don BoweyDate: 01:48 29-10-07
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On 10/28/07 10:45 PM, in article 472570e0$0$24323$4c368faf@roadrunner.com,
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
> Don Bowey wrote:
>
>> Yes, the answer is out there and it can be "determined." I found it
and so
>> can you. Think research.
>
> Really? You found it? Then please tell me what EDTN stands for before I
> go insane and continually dream about burning-to-death those who
> designed EDTN and formed that acronym.
>
>> Learn to seek what you want instead of brow-beating others to do it for you.
>> Whining won't help either.
>
> I am not demanded that others do my work for me. If I could find the
> answer, I wouldn't be posting in the 1st place. However, despite my hard
> toilsome efforts, I still found one hint of what EDTN means. So please
> inform me. If you don't, then I will keep have dreams of taking revenge
> against whoever formed the EDTN acrnomyn only to wake up and realize
> that the culprit it still out there teasing me like a mean schoolyard bully.
>
Let me rephrase my post for better accuracy: Yes, an answer is out there
but it must be "determined." You will not find EDTN defined. I found the
answer and so can you. Think research.
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Author: Green Xenon [Radium]Date: 01:55 29-10-07
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Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
> I still found one hint of what EDTN means.
Sorry. That should read "I still *haven't* found one hint of what EDTN
means."
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Author: Green Xenon [Radium]Date: 02:21 29-10-07
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Don Bowey wrote:
> On 10/28/07 10:45 PM, in article 472570e0$0$24323$4c368faf@roadrunner.com,
> "Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Don Bowey wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Yes, the answer is out there and it can be "determined." I found
it and so
>>>can you. Think research.
>>
>>Really? You found it? Then please tell me what EDTN stands for before I
>>go insane and continually dream about burning-to-death those who
>>designed EDTN and formed that acronym.
>>
>>
>>>Learn to seek what you want instead of brow-beating others to do it for you.
>>>Whining won't help either.
>>
>>I am not demanded that others do my work for me. If I could find the
>>answer, I wouldn't be posting in the 1st place. However, despite my hard
>>toilsome efforts, I still found one hint of what EDTN means. So please
>>inform me. If you don't, then I will keep have dreams of taking revenge
>>against whoever formed the EDTN acrnomyn only to wake up and realize
>>that the culprit it still out there teasing me like a mean schoolyard bully.
>>
>
>
>
> Let me rephrase my post for better accuracy: Yes, an answer is out there
> but it must be "determined." You will not find EDTN defined. I found
the
> answer and so can you. Think research.
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Please at least give me some
hints!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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