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Author: Green Xenon [Radium]
Date: 12:24 28-09-07


Hi:

Will someone please assist me in answering my questions in the below thread?

http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.deaf-l/browse_frm/thread/10f154c7215a31a6?sc
oring=d&hl=en


Thanks for your cooperation and understanding,

Radium

Author: Don Bowey
Date: 12:43 28-09-07

On 9/28/07 9:24 AM, in article 46fd2830$0$32509$4c368faf@roadrunner.com,
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:

> Hi:
>
> Will someone please assist me in answering my questions in the below thread?
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.deaf-l/browse_frm/thread/10f154c72
> 15a31a6?scoring=d&hl=en
>
>
> Thanks for your cooperation and understanding,
>
> Radium

You have certainly made a mess of making google searches. They should flush
all your posts so anyone wanting to search your latest interest might find
rational information.


Author: Richard Crowley
Date: 12:49 28-09-07

"Green Xenon [Radium]" wrote ...
> Will someone please assist me in answering my questions in the below
> thread?
>
>
http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.deaf-l/browse_frm/thread/10f154c7215a31a6?scor
ing=d&hl=en
>
>
> Thanks for your cooperation and understanding,

Hard to cooperate or understand when you make up acronyms
apparently out of thin air and then demand that they be defined
and explained. It is the kind of scenario that would make a good
scene on Monty Python.

If "EDTN" is really an acronym that you didn't make up yourself,
tell us where you saw it. Even better trace it back through the
context yourself. You might learn something about research
instead of asking everyone else to do it for you.



Author: Jerry Avins
Date: 13:13 28-09-07

Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
> Hi:
>
> Will someone please assist me in answering my questions in the below
> thread?

...

Where did you hear of your particular combination of letters? Isn't that
a good place to start if you want to track down its meaning? You seem to
have an idea that it's a kind of telephone service for people with a
particular disability. That's pretty specific. What makes you think so?

Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

Author: Green Xenon [Radium]
Date: 14:04 28-09-07

Richard Crowley wrote:

> If "EDTN" is really an acronym that you didn't make up yourself,
> tell us where you saw it.

Quotes from http://www.teletec.co.uk/minicoms/uniphone.php :

"Baudot, CCITT and EDTN codes"

Quotes from
http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/69ccb7c241b916d2?hl=en&;
:

"It's a long time since I had anything to do with this but the 'normal'
standards were/are Baudot, CCITT and EDTN."

Now would someone please assist me on this?

Author: Eeyore
Date: 14:16 28-09-07



"Green Xenon [Radium]" wrote:

> Now would someone please assist me on this?

NO.

And stop spamming so many groups.

Graham



Author: Don Bowey
Date: 14:30 28-09-07

On 9/28/07 11:04 AM, in article 46fd3f93$0$20627$4c368faf@roadrunner.com,
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:

> Richard Crowley wrote:
>
>> If "EDTN" is really an acronym that you didn't make up yourself,
>> tell us where you saw it.
>
> Quotes from http://www.teletec.co.uk/minicoms/uniphone.php :
>
> "Baudot, CCITT and EDTN codes"
>
> Quotes from
> http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/69ccb7c241b916d2?hl=
> en&
> :
>
> "It's a long time since I had anything to do with this but the 'normal'
> standards were/are Baudot, CCITT and EDTN."
>
> Now would someone please assist me on this?

That you provide bullshit as information, doesn't help.

Your answer is here..... Google for "tted directive"

Include the quote marks.



Author: Richard Crowley
Date: 14:32 28-09-07


"Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote in message
news:46fd3f93$0$20627$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Richard Crowley wrote:
>
>> If "EDTN" is really an acronym that you didn't make up yourself,
>> tell us where you saw it.
>
> Quotes from http://www.teletec.co.uk/minicoms/uniphone.php :
>
> "Baudot, CCITT and EDTN codes"
>
> Quotes from
>
http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/69ccb7c241b916d2?hl=en&; :
>
> "It's a long time since I had anything to do with this but the 'normal'
> standards were/are Baudot, CCITT and EDTN."
>
> Now would someone please assist me on this?

What happened when you asked Teletec?
What happened when you asked Peter Andrews?

Just throwing out questions like this clearly isn't getting you anywhere.
Your tone of insistence isn't winning you any friends, either.



Author: Don Bowey
Date: 14:32 28-09-07

On 9/28/07 11:16 AM, in article 46FD450D.5C451727@hotmail.com, "Eeyore"
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> "Green Xenon [Radium]" wrote:
>
>> Now would someone please assist me on this?
>
> NO.
>
> And stop spamming so many groups.
>
> Graham
>
>


I found what he needs and posted it to his plea on the basics board.


Author: Jerry Avins
Date: 14:51 28-09-07

Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
> Richard Crowley wrote:
>
>> If "EDTN" is really an acronym that you didn't make up yourself,
>> tell us where you saw it.
>
> Quotes from http://www.teletec.co.uk/minicoms/uniphone.php :
>
> "Baudot, CCITT and EDTN codes"
>
> Quotes from
>
http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/69ccb7c241b916d2?hl=en&;
> :
>
> "It's a long time since I had anything to do with this but the 'normal'
> standards were/are Baudot, CCITT and EDTN."
>
> Now would someone please assist me on this?

Don't believe everything you read. Baudot code was a five-bit code for a
teletype-like machine (with two modal shift characters so some keys had
three meanings). CCITT was a standards organization, now superceded. For
all I know, Baudot may have been the subject of one of their standards.

What gives you an idea that EDTN has anything to do with deafness? If it
does, it may be similar to TTY/TDD in the U.S.

Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

Author: IanB
Date: 15:00 28-09-07

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:51:56 -0400, Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> wrote:

>What gives you an idea that EDTN has anything to do with deafness? If it
>does, it may be similar to TTY/TDD in the U.S.

It's the European Deaf Telephone (Network) that is used in a few
European countries - Germany and Switzerland for example. It uses V21
modulation, but only one channel, and runs at 110 baud.

Took me less than 5 minutes to find using a search engine - the OP
couldn't have been trying too hard.
--
Ian

The from address is (currently) valid

Author: Richard Owlett
Date: 15:15 28-09-07

Jerry Avins wrote:
> Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> Will someone please assist me in answering my questions in the below
>> thread?
>
>
> ...
>
> Where did you hear of your particular combination of letters? Isn't that
> a good place to start if you want to track down its meaning? You seem to
> have an idea that it's a kind of telephone service for people with a
> particular disability. That's pretty specific. What makes you think so?
>
> Jerry

Using *_ONLY_* information from his "Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:04:03 -0700"
post and spending approximately 10 minutes with Google I came up with 10
URL's of agencies/firms which would be able to answer ANY legitimate
question or be willing/able to "tell him where to go" [intentional
double entendre]. The majority of sources are either commercial or
governmental sites. Remainder appear to be charitable sites.

All he would probably need would be a cogent reason for asking.

Author: Green Xenon [Radium]
Date: 15:18 28-09-07

Don Bowey wrote:

> Your answer is here..... Google for "tted directive"
>
> Include the quote marks.

Did exactly that.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22tted+directive%22+&btnG=Google+Search

No results

Author: Don Bowey
Date: 15:20 28-09-07

On 9/28/07 12:18 PM, in article 46fd5116$0$11008$4c368faf@roadrunner.com,
"Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:

> Don Bowey wrote:
>
>> Your answer is here..... Google for "tted directive"
>>
>> Include the quote marks.
>
> Did exactly that.
>
>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22tted+directive%22+&btnG=Google+Search
>
> No results

You should not have stopped.

Google "tte directive"


Author: Don Bowey
Date: 15:23 28-09-07

On 9/28/07 12:15 PM, in article 13fqkm4m7f7q963@news.supernews.com, "Richard
Owlett" <rowlett@atlascomm.net> wrote:

> Jerry Avins wrote:
>> Green Xenon [Radium] wrote:
>>
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> Will someone please assist me in answering my questions in the below
>>> thread?
>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Where did you hear of your particular combination of letters? Isn't that
>> a good place to start if you want to track down its meaning? You seem to
>> have an idea that it's a kind of telephone service for people with a
>> particular disability. That's pretty specific. What makes you think so?
>>
>> Jerry
>
> Using *_ONLY_* information from his "Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:04:03 -0700"
> post and spending approximately 10 minutes with Google I came up with 10
> URL's of agencies/firms which would be able to answer ANY legitimate
> question or be willing/able to "tell him where to go" [intentional
> double entendre]. The majority of sources are either commercial or
> governmental sites. Remainder appear to be charitable sites.
>
> All he would probably need would be a cogent reason for asking.

And enough effective intelligence to understand what is presented so he can
connect the dots.


Author: Green Xenon [Radium]
Date: 15:26 28-09-07

On Sep 28, 12:00 pm, IanB <ol...@sunhillow.eu> wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/b9ce4d219f7ce255 :

> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:51:56 -0400, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:

> >What gives you an idea that EDTN has
> >anything to do with deafness? If it
> >does, it may be similar to TTY/TDD in the U.S.

> It's the European Deaf Telephone (Network) that is used in a few
> European countries - Germany and Switzerland for example. It uses V21
> modulation, but only one channel, and runs at 110 baud.

Where did you find this information? Specifically, where did you find
that EDTN is “European Deaf Telephone Network”?

> Took me less than 5 minutes to find using a search engine

Really? What search engine did you use?

I used Google.


Author: Eeyore
Date: 15:29 28-09-07



IanB wrote:

> Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> wrote:
>
> >What gives you an idea that EDTN has anything to do with deafness? If it
> >does, it may be similar to TTY/TDD in the U.S.
>
> It's the European Deaf Telephone (Network) that is used in a few
> European countries - Germany and Switzerland for example. It uses V21
> modulation, but only one channel, and runs at 110 baud.
>
> Took me less than 5 minutes to find using a search engine - the OP
> couldn't have been trying too hard.

Why am I not surprised ?

He knows that already anyway ! Radium's posted about it before with an
exaplantion of what it means.

It's just more absurd attention seeking from the clueless idiot.

Graham


Author: Eeyore
Date: 15:31 28-09-07



"Green Xenon [Radium]" wrote:

> Where did you find this information? Specifically, where did you find
> that EDTN is “European Deaf Telephone Network”?

You knew that already you lying sack of shit.

Graham


Author: IanB
Date: 15:37 28-09-07

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0700, "Green Xenon [Radium]"
<glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:

>Where did you find this information?

A couple of the sites I came across mentioned it - I can't remember
which ones. Nothing technical, just a brief description.

> Specifically, where did you find
>that EDTN is “European Deaf Telephone Network”?

I didn't. The "Network" bit was in brackets because I meant, but
forgot, to put a question mark in there as well.

>Really? What search engine did you use?

Microsoft Live Search

--
Ian

The from address is (currently) valid

Author: Green Xenon [Radium]
Date: 16:28 28-09-07

IanB wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:26:29 -0700, "Green Xenon [Radium]"
> <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:

>>Specifically, where did you find
>>that EDTN is “European Deaf Telephone Network”?

> I didn't. The "Network" bit was in brackets because I meant, but
> forgot, to put a question mark in there as well.

So, IOW, you don't know for sure that EDTN equates to “European Deaf
Telephone Network”? I was afraid that would happen.

Whenever I've asked about EDTN [in relation to TDD], anyone who does
give an answer does not seem to know whether it is 100% correct. So my
suspicion was confirmed. !#%!$

Not trying to be a nuisance but I’m going crazy because of the
difficulty in answering my question.

Anyways, I am going to read the "TTE directive" and hopefully it will
answer my question.

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