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basics | Creating a voltage-controlled resistance


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Creating a voltage-controlled resistance - David - 2007-09-11 10:56:00

I'm testing rechargeable batteries and would like a voltage-controlled 
resistance so I can easily adjust the load with a program.

I'd appreciate recommendations on how to design this.

Thanks,

David







Re: Creating a voltage-controlled resistance - Eeyore - 2007-09-11 11:13:00


David wrote:

> I'm testing rechargeable batteries and would like a voltage-controlled
> resistance so I can easily adjust the load with a program.

Would a controlled current load be suitable ? That's a far simpler design task.

Graham


Re: Creating a voltage-controlled resistance - Phil Allison - 2007-09-11 11:15:00

"David"
>
> I'm testing rechargeable batteries and would like a voltage-controlled 
> resistance so I can easily adjust the load with a program.


** Would kinda help to know a few more details.

You testing AAA cells or 2.5 ton submarine batteries  ??

What load power levels, what max voltage ...

The  * answer fairy *  is on holiday and none of us hear can read minds via 
usenet.

Get  it   ???




.......  Phil



Re: Creating a voltage-controlled resistance - John Fields - 2007-09-11 12:32:00

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:56:30 -0400, "David"
<d...@yoowhoo.com> wrote:

>I'm testing rechargeable batteries and would like a voltage-controlled 
>resistance so I can easily adjust the load with a program.
>
>I'd appreciate recommendations on how to design this.

---
How about numerically controlled instead? View in Courier:



BAT+>------+------+
           |      |       
         [128R]   |
           |      |
           D      |
IN7>-----G        |
           S      |
           |      |    
BAT->------+      |
           |      |
GND>-------+---+  |
               |  |
           +---|--+ 
           |   |  |       
         [64R] |  |
           |   |  |
           D   |  |
IN6>-----G     |  |
           S   |  |
           |   |  |
           +---+  |
               |  |
           +---|--+ 
           |   |  |       
         [32R] |  |
           |   |  |
           D   |  |
IN5>-----G     |  |
           S   |  |
           |   |  |
           +---+  |
               |  |
           +---|--+ 
           |   |  |       
         [16R] |  |
           |   |  |
           D   |  |
IN4>-----G     |  |
           S   |  |
           |   |  |
           +---+  |
               |  |
           +---|--+ 
           |   |  |       
          [8R] |  |
           |   |  |
           D   |  |
IN3>-----G     |  |
           S   |  |
           |   |  |
           +---+  |
               |  |
           +---|--+ 
           |   |  |       
          [4R] |  |
           |   |  |
           D   |  |
IN2>-----G     |  |
           S   |  |
           |   |  |
           +---+--+
               |  |
           +---|--+ 
           |   |  |       
          [2R] |  |
           |   |  |
           D   |  |
IN1>-----G     |  |
           S   |  |
           |   |  |
           +---+  |
               |  |
           +---|--+ 
           |   |          
          [R]  |   
           |   |   
           D   |   
IN0>-----G     |   
           S   |   
           |   |   
           +---+ 

All the MOSFETs are N channel and you select the voltage, channel
resistance, and dissipation depending on what kind of battery you're
testing.  Also the load resistances.

Put a shift register on the MOSFET gates and you can control the
whole thing with 3 bits of data.


-- 
JF

Re: Creating a voltage-controlled resistance - Don Bowey - 2007-09-11 14:40:00

On 9/11/07 9:32 AM, in article a...@4ax.com,
"John Fields" <j...@austininstruments.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:56:30 -0400, "David"
> <d...@yoowhoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm testing rechargeable batteries and would like a voltage-controlled
>> resistance so I can easily adjust the load with a program.
>> 
>> I'd appreciate recommendations on how to design this.
> 
> ---
> How about numerically controlled instead? View in Courier:
> 

Snip

>          +---|--+
>          |   |  |
>         [4R] |  |
>          |   |  |
>          D   |  |
> IN2>-----G   |  |
>          S   |  |
>          |   |  |
           +---+  |<<<< had a jumper to 'S' here.
>              |  |
>          +---|--+


Snip

> All the MOSFETs are N channel and you select the voltage, channel
> resistance, and dissipation depending on what kind of battery you're
> testing.  Also the load resistances.
> 
> Put a shift register on the MOSFET gates and you can control the
> whole thing with 3 bits of data.
> 


Re: Creating a voltage-controlled resistance - John Fields - 2007-09-11 14:57:00

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:40:05 -0700, Don Bowey <d...@comcast.net>
wrote:


>Snip
>
>>          +---|--+
>>          |   |  |
>>         [4R] |  |
>>          |   |  |
>>          D   |  |
>> IN2>-----G   |  |
>>          S   |  |
>>          |   |  |
>           +---+  |<<<< had a jumper to 'S' here.
>>              |  |
>>          +---|--+
>
>
>Snip

---
YOW!!! Thanks. :-)


-- 
JF

Re: Creating a voltage-controlled resistance - Jamie - 2007-09-11 19:03:00

David wrote:
> I'm testing rechargeable batteries and would like a voltage-controlled 
> resistance so I can easily adjust the load with a program.
> 
> I'd appreciate recommendations on how to design this.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> 
  Assuming you're talking about microchip processor coding or maybe
even from the PC port?
   You can pulse width modulate (PWM).And drive a switching device like 
a Power fet or bipolar transistor to regulate. Of course, you should also
monitor current. This would mean a device that has either a ADC (
Analog to Digital Converter) or, use a series of voltage comparator as
ranges to activate a few IO lines as inputs.

   There are small AVR's and PIC chips that have this ability.
My self, for this, I would use an AVR. But that's my preference.


   Most Uc's have a PWM function in it that will use an IO or, you
can make one via a timer function.

   I don't know where you are at the level of electronics with this?

-- 
"I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken"
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5


Re: Creating a voltage-controlled resistance - David - 2007-09-11 22:03:00

"Phil Allison" <p...@tpg.com.au> wrote in message 
news:5...@mid.individual.net...

>
> The  * answer fairy *  is on holiday and none of us hear can read minds 
> via usenet.
>
> Get  it   ???
>

Hear hear!

The others who have responded will be plenty of help, your pompous attitude 
surely has a better use elsewhere.









Re: Creating a voltage-controlled resistance - David - 2007-09-11 22:12:00

"Jamie" <j...@charter.net> wrote in message 
news:AWEFi.51$s...@newsfe04.lga...
> David wrote:
>> I'm testing rechargeable batteries and would like a voltage-controlled 
>> resistance so I can easily adjust the load with a program.
>>
>> I'd appreciate recommendations on how to design this.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>  Assuming you're talking about microchip processor coding or maybe
> even from the PC port?
>   You can pulse width modulate (PWM).And drive a switching device like a 
> Power fet or bipolar transistor to regulate. Of course, you should also
> monitor current. This would mean a device that has either a ADC (
> Analog to Digital Converter) or, use a series of voltage comparator as
> ranges to activate a few IO lines as inputs.
>
>   There are small AVR's and PIC chips that have this ability.
> My self, for this, I would use an AVR. But that's my preference.
>
>
>   Most Uc's have a PWM function in it that will use an IO or, you
> can make one via a timer function.
>
>   I don't know where you are at the level of electronics with this?
>
> -- 
> "I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken"
> Real Programmers Do things like this.
> http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
>
>

I have a DAQ card to control the active resistance and sample the 
current/voltage.  Plan to use a shunt resistor to monitor the current.  I 
studied transistors in college years ago but am quite rusty.  You're 
suggesting using PWM to control the resistance?  I'd like to drain the 
batteries with a steady current, wouldn't that cause it to alternate? 



Re: Creating a voltage-controlled resistance - David - 2007-09-11 22:15:00

"John Fields" <j...@austininstruments.com> wrote in message 
news:a...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:40:05 -0700, Don Bowey <d...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Snip
>>
>>>          +---|--+
>>>          |   |  |
>>>         [4R] |  |
>>>          |   |  |
>>>          D   |  |
>>> IN2>-----G   |  |
>>>          S   |  |
>>>          |   |  |
>>           +---+  |<<<< had a jumper to 'S' here.
>>>              |  |
>>>          +---|--+
>>
>>
>>Snip
>
> ---
> YOW!!! Thanks. :-)
>
>
> -- 
> JF
>

I think something like this will work.  I wasn't envisioning discrete levels 
at first but there should be no problem doing it that way.

Thanks!



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