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Sci.Electronics.Basics -> AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency

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Author: Don Bowey
Date: 11:16 02-07-07


On 7/2/07 6:45 AM, in article f6avil$t30$1@news.albasani.net, "John Smith"
<assemblywizard@gmail.com> wrote:

> Don Bowey wrote:
>
>> ...
>> Would you please come and ask nicely. I don't like how you put your order.
>>
>
> Get back on your meds and cease and desist from bothering the other
> mental patients--else you get the straight jacket next! <grin>
>
> JS

Your attempts at presumed humor, are as bad as your AM knowledge. :^)


Author: Don Bowey
Date: 11:32 02-07-07

On 7/2/07 6:45 AM, in article f6avil$t30$1@news.albasani.net, "John Smith"
<assemblywizard@gmail.com> wrote:

> Don Bowey wrote:
>
>> ...
>> Would you please come and ask nicely. I don't like how you put your order.
>>
>
> Get back on your meds and cease and desist from bothering the other
> mental patients--else you get the straight jacket next! <grin>
>
> JS

By the way, I looked at the wiki link you posted and I can see why you are
misinformed by it; it's author was either simply not clear in his own mind,
or he did not understand that the "undulations" on the telephone line DC
voltage is NOT amplitude modulation in the multiplier sense. It is not AM
as it is being discussed in this thread of Radium's original post. If you
prefer the math proof, multiply the DC voltage frequency (0) by the audio
frequency (pick a number between 200 and 3000 Hz), and the product is zero -
No new frequencies are present. There's more to it than that but I probably
already lost you.



Author: Ian Jackson
Date: 11:41 02-07-07

In message <46890C09.BBCAD369@earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes
>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>
>> Conventional TV is VSB (visidual side band)
>
>
> Vestigal Sideband
>
>
Better still, Vestigial Sideband!
--
Ian

Date: 12:13 02-07-07

On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:41:01 +0100, Ian Jackson
<IanJacksonRemoveThisBit@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <46890C09.BBCAD369@earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell
> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes
> >Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> >>
> >> Conventional TV is VSB (visidual side band)
> >
> >
> > Vestigal Sideband
> >
> >
> Better still, Vestigial Sideband!

You're both wrong. It is VIRTUAL SIDEBAND because it isn't completely
real and the other sideband which isn't virtual carries the missing high
frequency modulation info. Once it gets into your second detector then
it becomes real due to the laws of product modulation.

Next, you will be telling people that VGA doesn't stand for "virtual
graphics array."

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.tarrnews.net

Author: John Smith
Date: 13:53 02-07-07

Don Bowey wrote:

> ...

Yeah, idiot, lot a proof there.

NO modulation at all, krist, the guy on the other end is only carrying
on a "virtual conversation!"

Excellent use of logic, keep up the good work ...

JS


Author: John Smith
Date: 14:00 02-07-07

John Smith wrote:

> [stuff]

And, by the way, when using plate modulation on a transmitter, the DC
input to plates of the transmitter has a modulated signal impressed upon
it by a modulation transformer (simply an audio transformer), every watt
of power to the xmitter is so impressed ... The DC voltage/current to
the xmitter contains the voice data--indeed, the exact same data which
is impressed onto the DC on a telephone line (voice/modulation.)

However, the real importance of this will only become clear to you when
you come out from under the influence of whatever it is you are smokin' ...

JS


Author: Don Bowey
Date: 14:20 02-07-07

On 7/2/07 10:53 AM, in article f6be49$123$1@news.albasani.net, "John Smith"
<assemblywizard@gmail.com> wrote:

> Don Bowey wrote:
>
>> ...
>
> Yeah, idiot, lot a proof there.
>
> NO modulation at all, krist, the guy on the other end is only carrying
> on a "virtual conversation!"
>
> Excellent use of logic, keep up the good work ...
>
> JS
>

The problem is, you are too ignorant to understand the terms being used.


Author: Don Bowey
Date: 14:24 02-07-07

On 7/2/07 11:00 AM, in article f6beh4$18n$1@news.albasani.net, "John Smith"
<assemblywizard@gmail.com> wrote:

> John Smith wrote:
>
>> [stuff]
>
> And, by the way, when using plate modulation on a transmitter, the DC
> input to plates of the transmitter has a modulated signal impressed upon
> it by a modulation transformer (simply an audio transformer), every watt
> of power to the xmitter is so impressed ... The DC voltage/current to
> the xmitter contains the voice data--indeed, the exact same data which
> is impressed onto the DC on a telephone line (voice/modulation.)
>
> However, the real importance of this will only become clear to you when
> you come out from under the influence of whatever it is you are smokin' ...
>
> JS
>

But I know WHY the plate modulated rig creates sidebands, and you still
don't, because you refuse to learn.


Author: John Smith
Date: 14:53 02-07-07

Don Bowey wrote:

> But I know WHY the plate modulated rig creates sidebands, and you still
> don't, because you refuse to learn.
>

Interesting, now you attempt to divert the conversation into the
modulation having been, FINALLY, impressed into the sidebands ...

Hell, it was just such a chore bringing your education up to speed on
this one point, I'd have to be paid to continue your education!

JS

Author: Don Bowey
Date: 15:13 02-07-07

On 7/2/07 11:53 AM, in article f6bhjs$4gs$1@news.albasani.net, "John Smith"
<assemblywizard@gmail.com> wrote:

> Don Bowey wrote:
>
>> But I know WHY the plate modulated rig creates sidebands, and you still
>> don't, because you refuse to learn.
>>
>
> Interesting, now you attempt to divert the conversation into the
> modulation having been, FINALLY, impressed into the sidebands ...
>
> Hell, it was just such a chore bringing your education up to speed on
> this one point, I'd have to be paid to continue your education!
>
> JS

You allude to knowing how the sidebands come into being yet you cannot
provide any clue that you really understand AM, and you continue to think
microphone current in a telephone loop is the same thing. You're as FOS as
they come.

I doubt you have fooled anyone on this board with your attempts to look like
you know more than you really do.






Author: John Smith
Date: 15:29 02-07-07

Don Bowey wrote:

> You allude to knowing how the sidebands come into being yet you cannot
> provide any clue that you really understand AM, and you continue to think
> microphone current in a telephone loop is the same thing. You're as FOS as
> they come.
>
> I doubt you have fooled anyone on this board with your attempts to look like
> you know more than you really do.

Buddy, you speak about these people being "fooled", interesting term,
implying you consider them fools!

I doubt that is true, they have seen through you in a heartbeat, most,
probably long before now ... I imagine they are just embarrassed for
you--having made such an A$$ of yourself ...

JS

Author: Don Bowey
Date: 16:04 02-07-07

On 7/2/07 12:29 PM, in article f6bjn4$eja$1@news.albasani.net, "John Smith"
<assemblywizard@gmail.com> wrote:

> Don Bowey wrote:
>
>> You allude to knowing how the sidebands come into being yet you cannot
>> provide any clue that you really understand AM, and you continue to think
>> microphone current in a telephone loop is the same thing. You're as FOS as
>> they come.
>>
>> I doubt you have fooled anyone

Please point out, above, or wherever you wish, where I said they were
fooled. You can't you POS liar.

>
> Buddy, you speak about these people being "fooled", interesting term,
> implying you consider them fools!

>>on this board with your attempts to look like you know more than you really
do.

>
> I doubt that is true, they have seen through you in a heartbeat, most,
> probably long before now ... I imagine they are just embarrassed for
> you--having made such an A$$ of yourself ...
>
> JS

While you continue to allude to skills and knowledge you don't have.

Do you often get away with this useless chest beating?



Author: Lloyd
Date: 16:40 02-07-07

On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:04:37 -0700, Don Bowey <dbowey@comcast.net> sneered:
> On 7/2/07 12:29 PM, in article f6bjn4$eja$1@news.albasani.net, "John
Smith"
> <assemblywizard@gmail.com> whined:
>
> >
> > I doubt that is true, they have seen through you in a heartbeat, most,
> > probably long before now ... I imagine they are just embarrassed for
> > you--having made such an A$$ of yourself ...
> >
> > JS
>
> While you continue to allude to skills and knowledge you don't have.
>
> Do you often get away with this useless chest beating?
>
>

FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT! Looka testosterone fly allover le place.

LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT!

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.tarrnews.net

Author: John Smith
Date: 17:12 02-07-07

Don Bowey wrote:

> ...
> While you continue to allude to skills and knowledge you don't have.
>
> Do you often get away with this useless chest beating?
>
>

You pathetically petty idiot ... I guess you call names because of your
age. Or, others have called you names and it has hurt your ego. Get an
education, grow-up and get off the drugs--you will be able to finally
respect yourself! :-(

Best hope in your therapy!

JS

Author: Don Bowey
Date: 17:21 02-07-07

On 7/2/07 2:12 PM, in article f6bpo3$tcn$1@news.albasani.net, "John Smith"
<assemblywizard@gmail.com> wrote:

> Don Bowey wrote:
>
>> ...
>> While you continue to allude to skills and knowledge you don't have.
>>
>> Do you often get away with this useless chest beating?
>>
>>
>
> You pathetically petty idiot ... I guess you call names because of your
> age. Or, others have called you names and it has hurt your ego. Get an
> education, grow-up and get off the drugs--you will be able to finally
> respect yourself! :-(
>
> Best hope in your therapy!
>
> JS

But POS was intended for guys like you.

Ok! Again, you win. Please enjoy your blissful ignorance with my good
wishes.

Finis



Author: RHF
Date: 17:42 02-07-07

On Jul 2, 6:16 am, Don Bowey <dbo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 7/1/07 10:06 PM, in article
> telamon_spamshield-142DD0.22065601072...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net,
>
> "Telamon" <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> > In article <PgZhi.908$eY....@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net>,
> > cledus <cle...@noemail.net> wrote:
>
> > < Snip >
>
> > Would you please have the decency to snip rec.radio.shortwave and other
> > groups from the newsgroup header. Thanks.
>
- Would you please come and ask nicely.
- I don't like how you put your order.

don bowey, Don Bowey. DON BOWEY !

Oh Please with Sugar and Spice and Everything Nice
snip, Snip. SNIP ! the "Rec.Radio.Shortwave" Group
from the Newsgroups {Distribution} Header when you
Post your Reply - It would be ever so decent of you
Kind and Wonder Sir. ;-)

thank you very much - most respectfully ~ RHF
.
.
. .


Author: Don Bowey
Date: 19:04 02-07-07

On 7/2/07 2:42 PM, in article
1183412569.470579.320170@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com, "RHF"
<rhf-newsgroups@pacbell.net> wrote:

> On Jul 2, 6:16 am, Don Bowey <dbo...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 7/1/07 10:06 PM, in article
>> telamon_spamshield-142DD0.22065601072...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net,
>>
>> "Telamon" <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <PgZhi.908$eY....@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net>,
>>> cledus <cle...@noemail.net> wrote:
>>
>>> < Snip >
>>
>>> Would you please have the decency to snip rec.radio.shortwave and other
>>> groups from the newsgroup header. Thanks.
>>
> - Would you please come and ask nicely.
> - I don't like how you put your order.
>
> don bowey, Don Bowey. DON BOWEY !
>
> Oh Please with Sugar and Spice and Everything Nice
> snip, Snip. SNIP ! the "Rec.Radio.Shortwave" Group
> from the Newsgroups {Distribution} Header when you
> Post your Reply - It would be ever so decent of you
> Kind and Wonder Sir. ;-)
>
> thank you very much - most respectfully ~ RHF
> .
> .
> . .
>

Ok, that's nice. Snip, snip, snip, snip.


Author: Telamon
Date: 00:09 03-07-07

In article <C2AE48C8.6D094%dbowey@comcast.net>,
Don Bowey <dbowey@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 7/1/07 10:06 PM, in article
> telamon_spamshield-142DD0.22065601072007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net,
> "Telamon" <telamon_spamshield@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
>
> > In article <PgZhi.908$eY.131@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net>,
> > cledus <cledus@noemail.net> wrote:
> >
> > < Snip >
> >
> > Would you please have the decency to snip rec.radio.shortwave and other
> > groups from the newsgroup header. Thanks.
>
> Would you please come and ask nicely. I don't like how you put your order.

This is a stupid cross posted Troll thread so pretty please with sugar
on it snip the other news groups it does not originate from. Thank you
very, very much in advance.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Author: RHF
Date: 00:35 03-07-07

On Jul 2, 9:09 pm, Telamon <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
wrote:
> In article <C2AE48C8.6D094%dbo...@comcast.net>,
> Don Bowey <dbo...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > On 7/1/07 10:06 PM, in article
> > telamon_spamshield-142DD0.22065601072...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net,
> > "Telamon" <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > In article <PgZhi.908$eY....@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net>,
> > > cledus <cle...@noemail.net> wrote:
>
> > > < Snip >
>
> > > Would you please have the decency to snip rec.radio.shortwave and other
> > > groups from the newsgroup header. Thanks.
>
> > Would you please come and ask nicely. I don't like how you put your order.
>
> This is a stupid cross posted Troll thread so pretty please with sugar
> on it snip the other news groups it does not originate from. Thank you
> very, very much in advance.
>
> --
> Telamon
> Ventura, California

Bravo ! ;o} ~ RHF


Author: Ron Baker, Pluralitas!
Date: 02:03 03-07-07


"John Smith I" <assemblywizard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f64hg5$d3j$1@nnrp.linuxfan.it...
> Radium wrote:

<snip>

Suppose you have a 1 MHz sine wave whose amplitude
is multiplied by a 0.1 MHz sine wave.
What would it look like on an oscilloscope?
What would it look like on a spectrum analyzer?

Then suppose you have a 1.1 MHz sine wave added
to a 0.9 MHz sine wave.
What would that look like on an oscilloscope?
What would that look like on a spectrum analyzer?



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