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Sci.Electronics.Basics -> Positioning a FAX and an Answering Machine

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Author: W. Watson
Date: 11:43 31-05-07

It appears that a FAX machine wants to be first in line when using the two
devices in Subject. Is there some way of changing that? Our devices are in
two different rooms, and it would be difficult to put the FAX first.

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Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA)

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Author: Lord Garth
Date: 12:01 31-05-07



"W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> It appears that a FAX machine wants to be first in line when using the two
> devices in Subject. Is there some way of changing that? Our devices are in
> two different rooms, and it would be difficult to put the FAX first.
>

This is a classic problem I've seen before. You need is to add
the distinctive ring feature to your phone service. Most modern fax
machines will have a setting for this function.

I have seen distinctive ring on a few answering machines though such
is less common.




Author: JeB
Date: 12:31 31-05-07

On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:43:00 GMT, "W. Watson"
<wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote:

>It appears that a FAX machine wants to be first in line when using the two
>devices in Subject. Is there some way of changing that? Our devices are in
>two different rooms, and it would be difficult to put the FAX first.

i suppose you can try a splitter at the fone line and run separate
lines to each machine from there. I presume u will want the
answering machine to pick up after several more rings than the
setting for the fax.



Author: Homer J Simpson
Date: 19:07 31-05-07


"W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:82C7i.23699$YL5.1846@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
> It appears that a FAX machine wants to be first in line when using the two
> devices in Subject. Is there some way of changing that? Our devices are in
> two different rooms, and it would be difficult to put the FAX first.

Most FAX machines have a built in FAX/Phone detector switch which is the
reason.



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Author: Lord Garth
Date: 19:24 31-05-07


"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:82C7i.23699$YL5.1846@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
> > It appears that a FAX machine wants to be first in line when using the
two
> > devices in Subject. Is there some way of changing that? Our devices are
in
> > two different rooms, and it would be difficult to put the FAX first.
>
> Most FAX machines have a built in FAX/Phone detector switch which is the
> reason.
>

What they lack is a ring generator ...

FAX machines answer the call and attempt to detect the negotiation tone.
If the tone is detected, the FAX activates.

If the tone is not detected, the output telephone jack on the FAX machine
gets
the line, sans ring voltage. An answering machine connected there will not
seize
the line because of the lack of ring voltage.

You need either a separate FAX number / line or the distinctive ring
feature.
A FAX machine with this feature will look for a ring cadence before
answering
the line. Having distinctive ring will allow you to leave the house wired
in a
loop as they typically are rather than creating a home run to the FAX
machine first.







Author: Homer J Simpson
Date: 19:56 31-05-07


"Lord Garth" <LGarth@Tantalus.net> wrote in message
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>> Most FAX machines have a built in FAX/Phone detector switch which is the
>> reason.
>>
>
> What they lack is a ring generator ...
>
> FAX machines answer the call and attempt to detect the negotiation tone.
> If the tone is detected, the FAX activates.
>
> If the tone is not detected, the output telephone jack on the FAX machine
> gets
> the line, sans ring voltage.

On mine, the answering machine picks up first, but the FAX tone has the FAX
grab the line from the A/M and handle the call.




Author: Lord Garth
Date: 20:01 31-05-07


"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "Lord Garth" <LGarth@Tantalus.net> wrote in message
> news:FOI7i.31631$Um6.10839@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
>
> >> Most FAX machines have a built in FAX/Phone detector switch which is
the
> >> reason.
> >>
> >
> > What they lack is a ring generator ...
> >
> > FAX machines answer the call and attempt to detect the negotiation tone.
> > If the tone is detected, the FAX activates.
> >
> > If the tone is not detected, the output telephone jack on the FAX
machine
> > gets
> > the line, sans ring voltage.
>
> On mine, the answering machine picks up first, but the FAX tone has the
FAX
> grab the line from the A/M and handle the call.
>

Does that mean your answering machine records the tones or does your
outbound
message talk while the FAX is negotiating?




Author: Homer J Simpson
Date: 22:09 31-05-07


"Lord Garth" <LGarth@Tantalus.net> wrote in message
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> Does that mean your answering machine records the tones or does your
> outbound message talk while the FAX is negotiating?

Usually the A/M is speaking while the fax is grabbing the line so no
problem.


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