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Sci.Electronics.Basics -> how I can connect 89c51serial port to telephone lineto send data?
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dear all,
I try to send vedio from cctv via telephone line I connect the cctv
camera output to ADC and the output of the ADC to Atmel 89c51
micocontroller to send the data serial but I want to connect the
output of the atmel89c51 to the telephone line
please help?
what the next step
best regards
yar
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Author: JamieDate: 13:54 27-05-07
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st_yar@yahoo.com wrote:
> dear all,
> I try to send vedio from cctv via telephone line I connect the cctv
> camera output to ADC and the output of the ADC to Atmel 89c51
> micocontroller to send the data serial but I want to connect the
> output of the atmel89c51 to the telephone line
>
> please help?
>
> what the next step
>
> best regards
> yar
>
you need a one to one audio transformer to isolate the
DC voltage .
A good pair of clamping diodes to protect the processor
from the ring voltage.
P.S.
Don't expect to send square wave signals directly. you'll have
to device a method of using sine wave audio.
this can be done via good voltage comparator on the RX end to
decode it.
--
"I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken"
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
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On May 27, 8:54 pm, Jamie
<jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net> wrote:
> st_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > dear all,
> > I try to send vedio from cctv via telephone line I connect the cctv
> > camera output to ADC and the output of the ADC to Atmel 89c51
> > micocontroller to send the data serial but I want to connect the
> > output of the atmel89c51 to the telephone line
>
> > please help?
>
> > what the next step
>
> > best regards
> > yar
>
> you need a one to one audio transformer to isolate the
> DC voltage .
> A good pair of clamping diodes to protect the processor
> from the ring voltage.
>
> P.S.
> Don't expect to send square wave signals directly. you'll have
> to device a method of using sine wave audio.
> this can be done via good voltage comparator on the RX end to
> decode it.
>
> --
> "I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken"
> Real Programmers Do things like this.http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
first of all many thanks for your reply but I ask for this audio
transformer I didn't find it in the electronic shop in my village. and
I have 2 questions here
-is there is replacement for it with another circuits & if it to
isolate could I replace it with opticoupller pc817 for example because
it is available here or optodiac to fire triac gate if it is suitable?
-for the voltage comparator is it ok (lm393 Low power dual voltage
comparator )
and if it is ok what is the reference voltage value I should use?
( I measured the telephone line voltage & it about 57volt at rest &
may be 70-110 at ring (sure I didn't measured the ring voltage)
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Author: BobDate: 15:29 27-05-07
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"Jamie" <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote in
message
news:Tqj6i.1793$As5.1477@newsfe12.lga...
> st_yar@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> dear all,
>> I try to send vedio from cctv via telephone line I connect the cctv
>> camera output to ADC and the output of the ADC to Atmel 89c51
>> micocontroller to send the data serial but I want to connect the
>> output of the atmel89c51 to the telephone line
>>
>> please help?
>>
>> what the next step
>>
>> best regards
>> yar
>>
> you need a one to one audio transformer to isolate the
> DC voltage .
> A good pair of clamping diodes to protect the processor
> from the ring voltage.
>
> P.S.
> Don't expect to send square wave signals directly. you'll have
> to device a method of using sine wave audio.
> this can be done via good voltage comparator on the RX end to
> decode it.
Sheesh! The silly gets ridiculous.
If sending baseband data over a phone line were this easy then the modem
would never have been invented.
The maximum bitrate a plain old telephone line will pass, through the public
switched network, is about 50kbps. Can you limit your video signal to this
type of bitrate? No, right?
Your only chance is to store up a bunch of video and then send it
s-l-o-w-l-y over the phone line (in non- real time) by using a modem. If you
can send the digitally-encoded video over a DSL or cable modem then you'll
be able to send it in real time. Otherwise fahgettaboudit.
Bob
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Author: Don BoweyDate: 16:19 27-05-07
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On 5/27/07 12:29 PM, in article
b6ydnXb7pZKnQcTbnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@giganews.com, "Bob"
<nimby_NEEDSPAM@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> "Jamie" <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote in
message
> news:Tqj6i.1793$As5.1477@newsfe12.lga...
>> st_yar@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> dear all,
>>> I try to send vedio from cctv via telephone line I connect the cctv
>>> camera output to ADC and the output of the ADC to Atmel 89c51
>>> micocontroller to send the data serial but I want to connect the
>>> output of the atmel89c51 to the telephone line
>>>
>>> please help?
>>>
>>> what the next step
>>>
>>> best regards
>>> yar
>>>
>> you need a one to one audio transformer to isolate the
>> DC voltage .
>> A good pair of clamping diodes to protect the processor
>> from the ring voltage.
>>
>> P.S.
>> Don't expect to send square wave signals directly. you'll have
>> to device a method of using sine wave audio.
>> this can be done via good voltage comparator on the RX end to
>> decode it.
>
>
> Sheesh! The silly gets ridiculous.
>
> If sending baseband data over a phone line were this easy then the modem
> would never have been invented.
>
> The maximum bitrate a plain old telephone line will pass, through the public
> switched network, is about 50kbps. Can you limit your video signal to this
> type of bitrate? No, right?
>
> Your only chance is to store up a bunch of video and then send it
> s-l-o-w-l-y over the phone line (in non- real time) by using a modem. If you
> can send the digitally-encoded video over a DSL or cable modem then you'll
> be able to send it in real time. Otherwise fahgettaboudit.
>
> Bob
>
>
You are correct if the intended connection is a dial-up.
However, the OP has not stated whether it is, or whether it is a
point-to-point connection, perhaps on non-loaded cable.
How about it OP? What are you trying to do?
Don
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Author: JamieDate: 17:05 27-05-07
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st_yar@yahoo.com wrote:
> On May 27, 8:54 pm, Jamie
> <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>>st_...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>dear all,
>>> I try to send vedio from cctv via telephone line I connect the cctv
>>>camera output to ADC and the output of the ADC to Atmel 89c51
>>>micocontroller to send the data serial but I want to connect the
>>>output of the atmel89c51 to the telephone line
>>
>>>please help?
>>
>>>what the next step
>>
>>>best regards
>>>yar
>>
>>you need a one to one audio transformer to isolate the
>>DC voltage .
>> A good pair of clamping diodes to protect the processor
>>from the ring voltage.
>>
>>P.S.
>> Don't expect to send square wave signals directly. you'll have
>>to device a method of using sine wave audio.
>> this can be done via good voltage comparator on the RX end to
>>decode it.
>>
>>--
>>"I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken"
>>Real Programmers Do things like this.http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
>
>
>
>
>
> first of all many thanks for your reply but I ask for this audio
> transformer I didn't find it in the electronic shop in my village. and
> I have 2 questions here
> -is there is replacement for it with another circuits & if it to
> isolate could I replace it with opticoupller pc817 for example because
> it is available here or optodiac to fire triac gate if it is suitable?
>
> -for the voltage comparator is it ok (lm393 Low power dual voltage
> comparator )
> and if it is ok what is the reference voltage value I should use?
> ( I measured the telephone line voltage & it about 57volt at rest &
> may be 70-110 at ring (sure I didn't measured the ring voltage)
>
if you want to got that with the isolator that's fine. in your case it
might just work how ever, you should be using a transistor output type
that drives a HV transistor with a reverser polarity protection diode.
I think it would be simpler for a 1:1 transformer..
For common stores and parts look at Radio shack, I don't know where
you are from how ever.. take a look here
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103994&cp=2032058.2032230.203
2277&pg=2&parentPage=family
P.S.
You should also have a 120 Volt suppressor on the line side along with
clamping diodes on the uC side.
if you only have single project then rip one from an old modem or
the like.
If this is going to be a production product then look else where like
Mouser.com or Digikey.com for 1:1 isolation signal transformers.
--
"I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken"
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
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Author: JasenDate: 06:30 28-05-07
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On 2007-05-27, st_yar@yahoo.com <st_yar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> dear all,
> I try to send vedio from cctv via telephone line I connect the cctv
> camera output to ADC and the output of the ADC to Atmel 89c51
> micocontroller to send the data serial but I want to connect the
> output of the atmel89c51 to the telephone line
>
> please help?
>
> what the next step
learn about bandwidth.
Bye.
Jasen
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